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    Come on, this isn't hard.
    It is for you apparently, what a dummy.

    With that said, we surmised that FFXI players would be emotionally attached to their player characters, so development of FINAL FANTASY XIV (FFXIV) began with design options for characters which resembled the player characters in FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    It is for you apparently, what a dummy.
    This somehow invalidates what I just said to your remarks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    This somehow invalidates what I just to your remarks?
    You're so silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    So does your dad work at SE or something?

    You do realize this game be this way without FF14 ever existing, right? At this point it is likely helping.
    Opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Opinion...
    Opinion based on reality and attentive observation. It's as I said. While the launch of FFXIV ARR probably didn't help matters at the time, FFXI's future was already decided long before that. the flop that was FFXIV 1.0 should have been a boon to XI but it wasn't.

    The evidence is quite clear that FFXI didn't need FFXIV's help to get to where it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Opinion based on reality and attentive observation. It's as I said. While the launch of FFXIV ARR probably didn't help matters at the time, FFXI's future was already decided long before that. the flop that was FFXIV 1.0 should have been a boon to XI but it wasn't.

    The evidence is quite clear that FFXI didn't need FFXIV's help to get to where it is now.
    Where is the evidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Where is the evidence?
    The evidence is in player activity prior to the game's release, along with the server merges and other signs that the game's popularity was decreasing, again prior to FFXIV ARR.

    You don't have server merges when your game is super successful and copies are flying off the shelves. FFXIV 1.0 came out in 2010 was a massive flop, which should have been good for FFXI, but it didn't do much. By the time ARR came out in september 2010 and bombed hardcore. And yet not long after this, FFXI had server merges, despite that it would be quite some time before FFXIV's much more successful relaunch would happen in 2013. This means the game's population was already declining, there's no way that would happen within 4 months because of the launch of a critically panned game.



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    Yes and where is the evidence that XIV had nothing to do with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Yes and where is the evidence that XIV had nothing to do with that?
    Do successful healthy games that are growing have server merges when the game that was supposedly going to take its players bombed and got pulled from the market? Doesn't make any logical sense to me. But what the hell do I know?

    There's no way FFXIV caused that. FFXI was already going through rough times. 2011 was when Dynamis was changed and when Voidwatch came out, on the heels of abyssea, which is widely blamed by players for the game's decline.

    It is thought by some that Abyssea being the crazy power playground that it was, made future content far less exciting and fun purely because abyssea made you feel so much more powerful, and then new content comes out and gives you a pale imitation of the power you had in Abyssea. Not everyone agrees with this exact explanation, but you can dig through these forums and others and find lots of debates on this where people blame Abyssea.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 05-20-2023 at 10:51 AM.

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    It's called cutting your losses, when a big project fails they have to save money from any source they can. Which is what happened most recently I'm pretty sure.

    Where is your evidence, sources.
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