Development Team Downsizing and Justification Makes no Sense

[Immortal]

No, just no. Don't even go there. FFXI was never anywhere near big enough to "hamstring FFXIV's success." They could spend a million or two on an advertising campaign or something else to boost the game and it wouldn't affect FFXIV at all. This is an absolutely absurd proposition.

False, especially considering they are practically considered the same entity under business reports. XI spending 2 million on advertising would have 0 affect on XIV? You can't be serious

Maybe you forgot that you alreaday covered it in your post, but they already tried that, and it didn't pan out, for reasons unknown.

So why bring it up? One example shouldn't be enough to stop suggesting they try it if they don't give a F about the game. I personally would hope they continue it but its increasingly obvious to me they don't care (Square Enix)

but it's absolutely ridiculous to imply that FFXI had to suffer for FFXIV to succeed.

No it isn't, and its a fact.

[Sp1cyryan]

No it isn't, and its a fact.

So does your dad work at SE or something?

You do realize this game be this way without FF14 ever existing, right? At this point it is likely helping.

[Immortal]

So does your dad work at SE or something?

You do realize this game be this way without FF14 ever existing, right? At this point it is likely helping.

Opinion...

[Alhanelem]

Opinion...

Opinion based on reality and attentive observation. It's as I said. While the launch of FFXIV ARR probably didn't help matters at the time, FFXI's future was already decided long before that. the flop that was FFXIV 1.0 should have been a boon to XI but it wasn't.

The evidence is quite clear that FFXI didn't need FFXIV's help to get to where it is now.

[Immortal]

Opinion based on reality and attentive observation. It's as I said. While the launch of FFXIV ARR probably didn't help matters at the time, FFXI's future was already decided long before that. the flop that was FFXIV 1.0 should have been a boon to XI but it wasn't.

The evidence is quite clear that FFXI didn't need FFXIV's help to get to where it is now.

Where is the evidence?

[Alhanelem]

Where is the evidence?

The evidence is in player activity prior to the game's release, along with the server merges and other signs that the game's popularity was decreasing, again prior to FFXIV ARR.

You don't have server merges when your game is super successful and copies are flying off the shelves. FFXIV 1.0 came out in 2010 was a massive flop, which should have been good for FFXI, but it didn't do much. By the time ARR came out in september 2010 and bombed hardcore. And yet not long after this, FFXI had server merges, despite that it would be quite some time before FFXIV's much more successful relaunch would happen in 2013. This means the game's population was already declining, there's no way that would happen within 4 months because of the launch of a critically panned game.