Development Team Downsizing and Justification Makes no Sense

[Pixela]

It's disgusting how Square Enix treats their most successful games, Blizzard is bad but SE are looking up at them with stars in their eyes.

With people like you cheering them on, how could they not.

[Immortal]

Why do you care what he goes on about? "Get over it!" Like seriously, are you trying to increase your post count or something? This place barely sees movement except for the same 3 people lol

[Alhanelem]

Why do you care what he goes on about? "Get over it!" Like seriously, are you trying to increase your post count or something? This place barely sees movement except for the same 3 people lol

It's not your/i/our faults that there's no one else here to talk to.

[Catmato]

It's not your/i/our faults that there's no one else here to talk to.

I disagree.

[Pixela]

Yes I am though, directly related to XI. When I talk about 16 it is in relation to XI, when I talk about reddit or discord it's in relation to XI communities that use them.

Come on, you're not this dense.

[Alhanelem]

Yes I am though, directly related to XI. When I talk about 16 it is in relation to XI, when I talk about reddit or discord it's in relation to XI communities that use them.

Come on, you're not this dense.

The relation is all in your mind, there is no relation between 16 and XI, you are just manufacturing reasons to hate on it for a imagined connection that doesn't exist.

I'm not dense at all. Yes, I know you're posting about this stuff because you personally believe there is a link and therefore it is relevant. I'm here to tell you, as I have been telling you, that all this crap about FFXVI somehow impacting FFXI (and thus by your logic being relevant to discuss here), is 100% BS.

[Pixela]

If you have 100 people and pay them to build a wall, then ask them to also build you a a hundred showers too the wall is either going to take longer to build or will be built to a lower standards.

You cannot take a finite resource of human staff and split it without damaging the primary goals.

There is no argument here, you know what I'm saying is correct and that 16 is hurting 14 and 11 but you are a YoshiP fanboy and so you must defend. No matter how weak your argument, you must make one.

They took a division that only made mmorpg content, and now are making a massive title that is starving everything else.

I have every right to be mad, every 11 fan has every right to be mad and so does every ff14 fan.

They are short changing us because they have made a calculation we will just put up with it and keep paying, they are mostly correct but Blizzard are learning there is still a cost to doing this. They will put up with it, but they won't like you for doing it to them and one day you'll need all your fanbase to stand up for you in your darkest hour and they won't be there.

[Pixela]

Here is the factual reality of FF4 and FF11.

If the management told YoshiP "no you cannot make ff16" he would of put all his developers efforts into making FF14 and FF11 as good as they can be in every way possible, they would get all the sprinkles, they would get all the efforts of the entire division.

However because he was told yes you can make ff16 we do not get all the sprinkles, and worse than that because ff16 is not doing so well we get punished for it too.

In a perfect world I would love that they are making ff16, we don't live in a perfect world. We get less becasue they are making it and we get punished if it flops, and we also get punished if it does well (cause they will be making ff17 then too)

[Alhanelem]

If you have 100 people and pay them to build a wall, then ask them to also build you a a hundred showers too the wall is either going to take longer to build or will be built to a lower standards.

SE has multiple devleopment teams working on multiple projects. I'm not suggesting resources are infinite but a big company like SE is more than capable of managing a significant number of people workng on multiple projects.

You know how i keep mentioning creative business unit 3? three is a number. There is more than one unit. There is more than one facility with more than one team working at it. They can ABSOLUTELY make multiple games at the same time without compromising any one of them.""

Also one thing you might notice if you watch FFXIV's multiple hour long credit rolls, is they contracted with DOZENS of third party companies providing various middleware, tools, and other development support. This means that not everyone who works on any of these games is a SE employee, and they can do a lot more without a ridiculously massive staff.

You know, why can't you channel your supposed passion for FFXI into talking about FFXI itself, how much you love it, and all sorts of more positive things instead of moaning and crying (to use forum-appropriate terms) about everything NOT FFXI?

[Monsuta_Man]

Us as players attempt to rationalize dev decisions. However, it is important to understand their words, or Jargon.

"Using jargon makes your communication more specific."

When they use "Limitations" or "Coding" it means they have no plans to do what you are asking. Before it was PS2 limitations, now those limitations are attached to the code.

Devs are only limited by what they are willing to spend, on what they are willing to do.

They are not willing to spend much on XI, because they actually killed it off when it was the most profitable title in the series. If that is not saying "Screw XI" I don't know what is.....

....Still won't stop me from asking for stuff lol.