Development Team Downsizing and Justification Makes no Sense

[Alhanelem]

Wait says who? They aren't as smart as you give them credit for. They will probably make another MMO to surpass XIV just like they did with XI, I will get some twisted satisfaction from watching it happen too, sorry to say. Those XIV players hated on XI for the longest time until it was no longer relevant, I never forget!

Sorry but I'm gonna go with "they're not as stupid as you don't give them credit for"

I probably could have written something more thoughtful but why bother lol

[Sp1cyryan]

Wait says who? They aren't as smart as you give them credit for. They will probably make another MMO to surpass XIV just like they did with XI, I will get some twisted satisfaction from watching it happen too, sorry to say. Those XIV players hated on XI for the longest time until it was no longer relevant, I never forget!

Stop holding such an incredibly petty grudge over vague sentiment from mostly former XI players. It's beyond foolish.

[DoctooOkay]

Now, now, petty grudges are the bedrock upon which all successful video game franchises are built.

[Sp1cyryan]

Now, now, petty grudges are the bedrock upon which all successful video game franchises are built.

User name checks out.

[Pixela]

There was a dedicated hate mob of early XIV players that wanted XI to die because they saw us not moving to their game as the reason it originally flopped and feared about ARR going the same way. However that was a long time ago now, most current XIV players are from WoW and never played XI at all.

XIV is a conduit for new players and relevance in 2023 so it's counter productive to hate it too much, I don't like XIV as a game since it's antithesis of what I like in an mmorpg but it's silly to not see the folly of alienating the XIV community.

The XIV races being designed on the XI races ended up being an asset, just not in the way they originally intended.

Plus both games are financially merged now, so XIV players don't see it as a competitor and indeed many see it as the answer to 14's casual nature.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...or-a-follow-up

[Alhanelem]

There was a dedicated hate mob of early XIV players that wanted XI to die because they saw us not moving to their game as the reason it originally flopped and feared about ARR going the same way.

[Citation needed]

I know of absolutely no one in FFXIV who ever said they wanted FFXI to die, and FFXIV 1.0 had about a million problems that virtually everyone who played it agreed on, soo the idea that 1.0 flopped becuase not enough XI players joined is beyond insane and ridiculous.

1.0 was nearly universally panned by everyone who played it. It had absolutely nothing to do with player counts and everything to do with 1.0 being literal garbage.

Even the staunchest fans of FFXIV today for the most part won't defend 1.0. There are a small number of people who thought the game was decent once jobs were added in the last few updates before it was shut down, but at the time of its launch it was bad enough that hardly anybody wanted to play it. No one could argue with a straight face that they thought "if only more FFXI players joined...."

[Pixela]

There was, on xiah, on reddit and in the game.

Keep in mind I am talking about back in the day, not today.

[Sp1cyryan]

There was, on xiah, on reddit and in the game.

Keep in mind I am talking about back in the day, not today.

Once again, players connected to XI in one way or another did this. Players that join XIV without a connection to XI rarely speak negatively about it. Even then, it wouldn't matter. Draylo is just ridiculous about any perceived slight towards FFXI. FFXIV 1.0 came out in 2010. It is time to get over it.

[Pixela]

We know who they were, didn't change what they did and how it riled people up for years.

You're pretty high and mighty lately, you were no different than the rest of us and don't pretend otherwise. You talked crap on 14, private servers and all the other stuff.

[Immortal]

He is going thru his doomer phase and tries to pretend he has some moral high ground now. Even though only a few short months ago he made a thread about people botting in 2023. Oh but its everyone else that needs to let things go lol