Development Team Downsizing and Justification Makes no Sense

[BobbinT]

Wait says who? They aren't as smart as you give them credit for. They will probably make another MMO to surpass XIV just like they did with XI, I will get some twisted satisfaction from watching it happen too, sorry to say. Those XIV players hated on XI for the longest time until it was no longer relevant, I never forget!

As me who plays both 11 & 14, (& also 1.0, which makes me also a legacy), I highly disagree, especially added that I also plays all of FF mainline series as well. If you're true FF fans, you CAN'T compare each individual titles since they have their own unique features.



Ppl who hates 11 over 14, or 14 over 11, are either too afraid to try, or just plain ignorantly rude that doesn't even know the "FF" brands. I love both 11 & 14 equally.

[Teraniku]

Ppl who hates 11 over 14, or 14 over 11, are either too afraid to try, or just plain ignorantly rude that doesn't even know the "FF" brands. I love both 11 & 14 equally.

I've played both and stayed with 11, XIV is way to WoW like for my tastes , and I hate maintenance costs on everything, but that's just me.

[DoctooOkay]

Now, now, petty grudges are the bedrock upon which all successful video game franchises are built.

[Sp1cyryan]

Now, now, petty grudges are the bedrock upon which all successful video game franchises are built.

User name checks out.

[Pixela]

There was a dedicated hate mob of early XIV players that wanted XI to die because they saw us not moving to their game as the reason it originally flopped and feared about ARR going the same way. However that was a long time ago now, most current XIV players are from WoW and never played XI at all.

XIV is a conduit for new players and relevance in 2023 so it's counter productive to hate it too much, I don't like XIV as a game since it's antithesis of what I like in an mmorpg but it's silly to not see the folly of alienating the XIV community.

The XIV races being designed on the XI races ended up being an asset, just not in the way they originally intended.

Plus both games are financially merged now, so XIV players don't see it as a competitor and indeed many see it as the answer to 14's casual nature.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...or-a-follow-up

[Alhanelem]

There was a dedicated hate mob of early XIV players that wanted XI to die because they saw us not moving to their game as the reason it originally flopped and feared about ARR going the same way.

[Citation needed]

I know of absolutely no one in FFXIV who ever said they wanted FFXI to die, and FFXIV 1.0 had about a million problems that virtually everyone who played it agreed on, soo the idea that 1.0 flopped becuase not enough XI players joined is beyond insane and ridiculous.

1.0 was nearly universally panned by everyone who played it. It had absolutely nothing to do with player counts and everything to do with 1.0 being literal garbage.

Even the staunchest fans of FFXIV today for the most part won't defend 1.0. There are a small number of people who thought the game was decent once jobs were added in the last few updates before it was shut down, but at the time of its launch it was bad enough that hardly anybody wanted to play it. No one could argue with a straight face that they thought "if only more FFXI players joined...."

[Pixela]

There was, on xiah, on reddit and in the game.

Keep in mind I am talking about back in the day, not today.

[Sp1cyryan]

There was, on xiah, on reddit and in the game.

Keep in mind I am talking about back in the day, not today.

Once again, players connected to XI in one way or another did this. Players that join XIV without a connection to XI rarely speak negatively about it. Even then, it wouldn't matter. Draylo is just ridiculous about any perceived slight towards FFXI. FFXIV 1.0 came out in 2010. It is time to get over it.

[Alhanelem]

There was, on xiah, on reddit and in the game.

Keep in mind I am talking about back in the day, not today.

From day one few people liked 1.0, it set records for how hard it crashed and burned for an MMO. I'm not going to say zero people liked it, but it was wildly unpopular and anyone who actually did do what you say was a super tiny minority making some loud noises.

[Pixela]

From day one few people liked 1.0, it set records for how hard it crashed and burned for an MMO. I'm not going to say zero people liked it, but it was wildly unpopular and anyone who actually did do what you say was a super tiny minority making some loud noises.

You are correct but that's how our minds work.

A minority of wow players attacked ff14 for many years, which made ff14 players hate wow.