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    Player Haldarn's Avatar
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    I think (yeah yeah) S-E should pile everything on a full conversion into a new engine and modern system, near identical to FFXIV's. Then Yoshi-P isn't just the guy who turned a failed MMORPG into a success story, he's saved a dying MMORPG on the brink and shown how live service games can evolve past tech restrictions. What an amazing project for developers to be involved in, and one that both uses existing expertise and also provides those devs with a solid future and potential accolades to boot.

    The next decade XI and XIV can then move forward in concert until we can all complain together about how FFXIX being an action looter/shooter MMO with NFT lootboxes is an awful idea.
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    It all began with a stone...

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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    I think (yeah yeah) S-E should pile everything on a full conversion into a new engine and modern system, near identical to FFXIV's. Then Yoshi-P isn't just the guy who turned a failed MMORPG into a success story, he's saved a dying MMORPG on the brink and shown how live service games can evolve past tech restrictions. What an amazing project for developers to be involved in, and one that both uses existing expertise and also provides those devs with a solid future and potential accolades to boot.

    The next decade XI and XIV can then move forward in concert until we can all complain together about how FFXIX being an action looter/shooter MMO with NFT lootboxes is an awful idea.
    I'd be 100% behind this as long as it didn't involve a hardcore dumbing-down of existing game systems. i.e. elemental and monster relationships, physical strengths/weaknesses, etc. For all the good things FFXIV does, it feels like it came at a cost of making job mechanics too simple (for the sake of roping in new players). So I would love to see Yoshida decide to breathe life into FFXI, as long as that doesn't mean drastically changing the things that made FFXI what it was. New graphics, better (and officially customizable) UI, better netcode and regional servers, and less clunky delays / animation locks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    I think (yeah yeah) S-E should pile everything on a full conversion into a new engine and modern system
    The only problem with that I find, is that a lot of long-term players actually play this on older dedicated systems. That and other people seemingly running multiple instances (obviously not mean to be but..) due to the fact the current game requires little to no resources in order to run, and people take advantage of that. Increase the games demand on resources and said people would probably be unable to do what they do.
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    Sirmarki, ex-Fenrir, a young warrior, in the heyday.

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    You know I was sad when pso 1 and 2 and episode 3 died. sega pulled the plug btw listen to this https://youtu.be/_N4QKSzIouU
    That's the ending them to pso episode 2
    It speaks to the unavoidable end. I get it it sucks but when that shut down I discovered final fantasy 11 and I love this game. But one day it will meet psos fate.
    I hope to be lucky enouph to find another game to carry on my adventures. Thou I'll never forget 11 my advice is no matter how long this has left stfu and go play 11 while any of us can. And have fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by zataz View Post
    You know I was sad when pso 1 and 2 and episode 3 died. sega pulled the plug btw listen to this https://youtu.be/_N4QKSzIouU
    That's the ending them to pso episode 2
    It speaks to the unavoidable end. I get it it sucks but when that shut down I discovered final fantasy 11 and I love this game. But one day it will meet psos fate.
    I hope to be lucky enouph to find another game to carry on my adventures. Thou I'll never forget 11 my advice is no matter how long this has left stfu and go play 11 while any of us can. And have fun
    Yes, 11 will shut down eventually but it's not anytime soon. It's a numbered title. SE won't kill off the game as long it makes them money.
    I'm sure you've heard of FF14, it also a numbered title. There is a reason they put into so much money and resources into getting it fixed.

    Had the game only been named Final Fantasy: Online. Yeah then it would probably been killed off back in 2010.
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    How about no? they should keep this game going till the wheels fall off or until barely anyone cares anymore. We are paying for the server fees, they can afford it and here is no reason to just accept that. They owe us the ability to continue to play a game we have supported for 20 years (and continue to), when it costs them so little to do so. XI is the most profitable game they have ever made because of us, and part of the deal is protecting our investment of time and money.

    With Sonic Team and PSO you could kind of understand it because it was a free game, there was no sub or cash shop.

    If Square close the servers for this game when there are still enough people paying to play it, not only will I and many others never buy a game they release again. Many will also turn into the most toxic anti fans of anything they put out that can exist. Because that's how this works, if you close something people are super passionate about that passion turns to anger and it has no sell by date.

    God help Square Enix if they ever shut down ff14, cause they might as well close the company if they do. They think like me and there are about 100x more of them, they will take that extremely personally.

    Closing a long running mmo is awful PR, especially if you plan to release more in the future. Nobody will trust you, NCsoft have burned their image in the west doing this for example.
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    A good example is Guild wars, when Arenanet released Gw2 they kept Gw running and it still is running with one guy in charge of it now.

    The reason for that, is even if it runs at a loss now the loss of revenue is better than the bad PR and alienation of their Gw2 community that is the alternative.

    If you have a beloved game that will stop working if the servers are closed, you will be directly blamed and reviled for that happening and for a company built on a fanbase that would be a really bad idea. For game that didn't last long, it's not a big deal. If you do it a long running game you're going to be despised.

    Love for game > anger at loss > hatred for the billion dollar company who did it.

    I think YoshiP is smart enough to know that.
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    It doesn't matter how desperate you are for it to continue. It will end, and it won't matter who another company did for a different game. When it is clear that XI walks its own path of existence before it inevitably is shut down. Enjoy while you can because that is the hospice stage the game is entering into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    It doesn't matter how desperate you are for it to continue. It will end, and it won't matter who another company did for a different game. When it is clear that XI walks its own path of existence before it inevitably is shut down. Enjoy while you can because that is the hospice stage the game is entering into.
    What a doomer
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