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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    I appreciate how you managed to project your politics into this as well; it's completely irrelevant and inaccurate.

    No one is being contrarian for the sake of it. Compared to how completely in lala land you two are.

    Who here is even running a PS? Why are you people so out of touch with basic reality?
    Who said anything about someone on this forum running a server? It was being talked about how they could potentially have keyloggers, use your personal info later after the inevitable downfall of that server (every single server before it has met the same fate, fading into obscurity) and how they are in it for profit behind the scenes. All of those things are probable and most likely true given history of private servers and the types of people running them. You just have some kind of angst against him and decide to be contrary to everything this person is saying. How are we out of touch with reality? You really think a bunch of neckbeards running a private server have no ulterior motives? Give me a break, that is as far from reality as you can be. At the minimum he is at least warning people to be wary of completely trusting them with all their info... Use different passwords or do anything to protect yourself because this is not some big corp, its a bunch of losers who never left dragons aery trying to relive their glory days and make some profit on the way.

    As far as the politics, its the only way I can reasonably explain how these people are. Just this guy alone getting bent out of shape and saying hes going to block people. That is the entire mindset, you don't agree with my opinion! how dare you, I'm going to silence you anyway i can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar View Post
    Well this relentless bitchfest is getting annoying, so time to make a new Adblock filter to block it out.
    I suggested something similar last year. I use uBlock Origin (it does its job better though). It didn't work because how small this community is. You can remove Uriah's thread from view as it's completely useless and we just let him playing his little toy anyway.
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    Blocking people for saying things you don't like is cowardice.
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    The danger with the PS scene is completely justified, if you say otherwise you're just trying to cope with the fact you downloaded one and have put yourself at risk. You're effectively chanting "please don't screw me over, please don't, please don't!" when you're installing it and updating it if you have any understanding how this works at all.

    When I was a younger I used to torrent games all the time. These wonderful people were giving me these $60 games for free, I didn't know them at all but they were just "nice people" helping me out for some...reason. Wasn't that so nice of them? Guess what happened to my computer and guess why I don't do that anymore. It's russian roulette.

    I learned the hard way that when someone can profit from being a bad actor with no consequences and taking advantage of your naivety they often will, considering many of our accounts (over many games etc) are worth thousands to tens of thousands of dollars it's a big risk you're taking isn't it?

    It's called risk assessment, I don't distrust everything I can install but some things are far more risky than others.

    If someone is spending a lot of money to run something every month and they have no cash shop or no way to turn me into a valued customer I am instantly suspicious of them and their motives, even if there is no immediate punishment for my actions that give me a false sense of security I'm still fully aware that they could take me 6 or 12 months from now if they wanted because the passwords are still going to be the same aren't they? Every update is another risk that they finally decided to cash out. It's not even just you either, you're also risking any friends accounts you login to from your computer too.

    Lets be generous and say most of these people have no bad intentions and are making money in other ways that don't hurt you, to offset the large losses it costs to run it (the ones with thousands of players are spending thousands of dollars a month in hosting fees). Ok lets say they have a medical issue next week and suddenly they need lots of money to pay for treatment. Do you know how easy it is to mentally justify predating on people who have been effectively leeching off you and using a service for free you're paying money to run?

    Lets give another scenario. What if a hacker gets into their computer and then they predate on the you.

    Companies have a reputation to uphold, and you can sue them cause you know who they are and they also protect themselves from outside attacks to keep you safe. Some person in his bedroom is none of these things, they can ghost the entire community tomorrow and take everything down if they want.

    If you want to take the risk you do it, but people should understand the risks if they want to follow you. To say what I posted above is a conspiracy theory, is you wanting others to take a risk unaware just because misery loves company if something does go wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    Blocking people for saying things you don't like is cowardice.
    Not really. it's just drivel and about as off-topic as you can go.
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    Sirmarki, ex-Fenrir, a young warrior, in the heyday.

  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Who said anything about someone on this forum running a server? It was being talked about how they could potentially have keyloggers, use your personal info later after the inevitable downfall of that server (every single server before it has met the same fate, fading into obscurity) and how they are in it for profit behind the scenes. All of those things are probable and most likely true given history of private servers and the types of people running them. You just have some kind of angst against him and decide to be contrary to everything this person is saying. How are we out of touch with reality? You really think a bunch of neckbeards running a private server have no ulterior motives? Give me a break, that is as far from reality as you can be. At the minimum he is at least warning people to be wary of completely trusting them with all their info... Use different passwords or do anything to protect yourself because this is not some big corp, its a bunch of losers who never left dragons aery trying to relive their glory days and make some profit on the way.

    As far as the politics, its the only way I can reasonably explain how these people are. Just this guy alone getting bent out of shape and saying hes going to block people. That is the entire mindset, you don't agree with my opinion! how dare you, I'm going to silence you anyway i can.
    Your circular reasoning on the matter leads your responses. Your attempt to turn it back around and go on the offensive is pretty weak as well. A lot of words for a lot of nothing.

    And as for politics, no it is not the "only reasonable explanation." It is for you due to the particularly narrow bounds of your reasoning.It is simply ignorant and inaccurate. A mischaracterization on the nature of interpersonal conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post

    And as for politics.
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    Last edited by Pixela; 04-30-2023 at 03:14 AM.

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    The danger with the PS scene is completely justified
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    Your circular reasoning on the matter leads your responses. Your attempt to turn it back around and go on the offensive is pretty weak as well. A lot of words for a lot of nothing.

    And as for politics, no it is not the "only reasonable explanation." It is for you due to the particularly narrow bounds of your reasoning.It is simply ignorant and inaccurate. A mischaracterization on the nature of interpersonal conflict.
    Honestly your whole post just does not make sense, you are just being contrary to troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Honestly your whole post just does not make sense, you are just being contrary to troll.
    His post makes plenty of sense, you're just not able to see it. Stop crying "CONTRARIAN!" as a cop out and maybe actually read first.

    I believe in and stand by my opinions, the fact that you don't agree with them doesn't make me a "contrarian." I'm sorry I don't always have the most popular opinion but it is really my opinion, I'm not just saying it to stir the pot, and neither is he.
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