Development Team Downsizing and Justification Makes no Sense

[Alhanelem]

That's absolutely not how debate works. You don't make wild assertions and then tell people to prove you wrong. You make assertions, present your evidence for those assertions, and then challenge other people to dispute your evidence. Otherwise I could tell you, for example, to prove to me that you don't murder hobos for fun.

I've been trying to explain this for years, they'll never get it. You ask this guy for proof he either says "its ez to find go find it urself" or doesn't prove anything at all ever. It's up to the person making the claims to convince others that they are correct. Given the other person takes the opposite position, they aren't going to seek out info to prove themselves wrong nor are they obligated to.

I don't know if or who is selling gil on a private server and I don't care, it's kind of a moot point when the whole thing is illegitimate in the first place. While Pixela is pulling a bunch of crap out of nowhere, people are using that private server to play the game for free and it does damage the game by them so doing.

[Zehira]

Are you smart enough to know if they were doing that? no you're not, you're tech illiterate

Hilarious because I am an old-fashioned programmer, web designer, SQL manager, Photoshop expert and many more. All the things I learned from college more than a decade ago (Yes, I forgot a lot). I started learning how to use Blender to make models in XIV after I learned how in XI.

[Pixela]

Hilarious because I am an old-fashioned programmer, web designer, SQL manager, Photoshop expert and many more. All the things I learned from college more than a decade ago (Yes, I forgot a lot). I started learning how to use Blender to make models in XIV after I learned how in XI.

Sure you are, which is why you gave a program access through your firewall even though you have no idea what is in it.

What checks have you done on it? Wow me with your tech skills rite about naow.

[Zehira]

Sure you are, which is why you gave a program access through your firewall even though you have no idea what is in it.

What checks have you done on it? Wow me with your tech skills rite about naow.

Internet stuff was the first thing I learned when I was a senior before anything. It was the hardest thing to study.

[Pixela]

It's amazing to me that people just install this stuff and think nothing of it at all and give it access through their firewall and are told any virus warnings are false positivies, not only once but multiple ones. how many have you installed? 2-3?

You do know there are bad people out there right? We don't really live in the carebear kingdom.

If you're right and they didn't do anything nothing happens, if I'm right you're screwed cause you gave full access to your pc with the potential of key loggers to steal every user name and password you enter for everything. Plus it's not an instant thing, they can keep hold of that stuff for months or years before taking advantage of it.

I dunno, I don't like the odds but you do you.

I can trust Square Enix cause it's a billion dollar company and I'm a customer giving them money for a service, some guys in their bedroom offering me a free deal they spend thousands of dollars a month in hosting fees for...not so much though.

[Zehira]

I dunno, I don't like the odds but you do you.

I wouldn't worry. It is installed on my Microsoft Surface Pro 3 with no personal info with a Brave web browser and total security program. Nothing can be trusted even Duckduckgo told you they don't track your info.

[Pixela]

That's absolutely not how debate works. You don't make wild assertions and then tell people to prove you wrong. You make assertions, present your evidence for those assertions, and then challenge other people to dispute your evidence. Otherwise I could tell you, for example, to prove to me that you don't murder hobos for fun.

Spicy is a pain in the ass, he just says things all the time to be annoying and does it on purpose. Which is why I don't spend much time replying to him at all, at least not here.

The original point I made is perfectly valid and you know it is, if I gave you a link to a random exe would you download and install it? Because that's what these people are doing, and again it's not just with this specific server either because they download any that offers one like it's nothing.

Most of these "developers" don't even really make anything, they just download the entire package from github and install it on a server. There isn't much work to set one up and inject some naughty things into them.

There is no validation, there is no objective safety, it's all purely trust and you're trusting people you don't even know and that could disappear in a puff of smoke tomorrow. There could be a bad actor that joins the team months from now, and you keep getting updates to this gigs worth of software not knowing what it's doing.

People have way too much positivity bias, and it is idiocy given how much they can make stripping your account and selling all your assets.

[Pixela]

You ask this guy for proof he either says "its ez to find go find it urself" or doesn't prove anything at all ever.

Still mad you lose every argument I see, pathetic.

[Tarmarkvar]

Still mad you lose every argument I see, pathetic.

Conversations aren't contests. Grow up.

[Tarmarkvar]

Well this relentless bitchfest is getting annoying, so time to make a new Adblock filter to block it out.