February 2023 FINAL FANTASY XI Digest

[Alhanelem]

All you are is a pure contrarian and it's really boring at this point.

You're the one being a contrarian. You are opposing me for the sake of opposing me, while I am making arguments based in rationalism and logic. At least, I can't think of any other reason for you to say what you say, You're literally the only person on this forum that would complain if SE offered sales or subscription promotions.

[Alhanelem]

Then. Stop. Replying. Having him blocked is simply awesome.

Nothing better than seeing them desperately try to annoy you and be ignored. That's all they do is annoy and argue. So stop participating.

See they're all about to say something whiny and complainy and all I'm going to see is

You don't need to show me or anyone else what it looks like when someone blocks them, I actually have them blocked too but I end up reading their posts anyway on the off chance they actually say something different from what they usually say. Which much like with you, is a pretty vain hope.

That said. and this is for everyone: I'm not TRYING to annoy this person, or anyone, at all. It's your choice to be annoyed, I would certainly like to convince them that they're wasting your time documenting every single one of your worthless reports, but wasting time is evidently one of Uriah's hobbies, so I just reply to the other people who also see their useless bot reporting thread for what it is. And there isn't any desperation here. I'm just here. If this guy really thinks that I"m thinking "I GOTTA KEEP POSTING SO HE HOPEFULLY READS MY POST AND GETS ANNOYED!," well, sorry to disappoint, but that's not why I'm here.

It just comes with the territory when one is the most active user, everyone knows who you are and you get targeted just for being around.

[Pixela]

Add a way to pick your moglification effect, it's annoying you have to remove all furniture to get the Prismatic Chest active effect key item

[Tarmarkvar]

A term filter will be completely useless. Unless it applies an algorithm to block all similar terms. You could at least pretend to try.

Specific word filtering is foiled by merely adding spaces periods hyphens numbers etc

And it only blocks 100 words, it could not be less useless.

Well of course it's useless to you. You don't actually play the game. You just spam the forums.

[Tarmarkvar]

What keywords are people using? because most of them will block legit yells.

Not had a chance to play with it yet, but does the list include the ability to add player names (or maybe even wildcards)?

I was using a 3rd party tool for this, and I used pretty short terms. Like I think "2100" would block out most of the spam from the guys who sold job points. I'll have to post my list of terms when I get home.

[Zenion]

What keywords are people using? because most of them will block legit yells.

Not had a chance to play with it yet, but does the list include the ability to add player names (or maybe even wildcards)?

Ｆ
Ｘ
Ｃ
ｃ
Ｇ
ｇ
hr/

The blank line at the start is structural, Ｆ will not work if it's excluded.

[Alhanelem]

Wouldn't having all those individual letters block like, the vast majority of all chat?

[Zenion]

Wouldn't having all those individual letters block like, the vast majority of all chat?

No, because those aren't the actual letters like we'd type them. They're some stupid unicode characters that RMTs use to get past other filtering methods. Which is exactly why it works so well: nobody's accidentally shouting "ｇｉｌ" instead of "gil".

[Sp1cyryan]

Ｆ
Ｘ
Ｃ
ｃ
Ｇ
ｇ
hr/

The blank line at the start is structural, Ｆ will not work if it's excluded.

What about "Sheol C" yells? Doesn't that C stop it? What about the foreign characters that look just like a C, etc, but aren't?

[Zenion]

What about "Sheol C" yells? Doesn't that C stop it? What about the foreign characters that look just like a C, etc, but aren't?

Nope, this doesn't block normal communication in any way (except maybe some weird edge case where someone actually wants to say something like "Dynamis, 2hr/run; Sortie, 1hr/run.")

The letters I used in that filter aren't the ones you get typing with your keyboard. I doubt they're what anyone gets just typing with their keyboard. The Ｃ one specifically is "fullwidth latin capital letter c", unicode 0xFF23; in comparison, the C that you get typing normally is just "latin capital letter c", unicode 0x43. A computer isn't going to mistake the two, no matter how similar they look. This is why they get used in shouts - you can block any of the normal Latin character set you want, and it's never going to catch that fullwidth Latin set.

As to the specific letter choices, I'm assuming any gil seller is going to want to say "FFXI", "gil", "gold", or ".com" in their shout; it would be possible to just use all 52 of these fullwidth characters and guarantee a catch, but that's a very wide net to cast and I prefer not to waste the space right now.

Any non-Latin character shaped like an F, a G, or a C will still bypass this filter, but those shouldn't be all that common; if you see it happening, you can always use the newly-added in-game copy to clipboard feature to grab the offending characters and add them to your filter if they do slip by. (And if that happens, maybe post that text somewhere on the boards here so we can keep pace with the bots?)

EDIT: ... well, okay, actually, I say all that, then look at FFXIAH and just immediately see a shout where someone's using the fullwidth characters instead of the standard ones to shout for Sortie. Kind of thought Japanese players were using the usual ascii character set when they typed in English but I guess not. So... I guess you can hit false positives, but... well, it's a trade-off. You could consider using ＦＦ and ＦＩ in place of just Ｆ, ＣＯ in place of just Ｃ, and ＧＩ and ＧＯ in place of Ｇ; ｃ, ｆ, and ｇ shouldn't see any normal use and are likely fine to use as-is. There's more risk of a nuisance shout slipping by though, decide which you're more comfortable with.

Amended lower-loss version, then:

ＦＦ
ＦＩ
ＣＯ
ＧＩ
ＧＯ
ｃ
ｆ
ｇ
hr/