Spell Wishlist

[Prothscar]

Addle, Regain, Protect, Shell, Aquaveil, any type of enhancing magic that can target others more than 50% of the time to name some. I have no want for any of it.

Also news flash: We already have stoneskin and paralyze, they're just hideously inefficient. It's also worth noting that you quoted a post that's weeks old and prior to the PTS going live with all of BLU's new goodies, which are more than enough for me. But please, other jobs, continue saying that BLU is taking your precious toys when in reality it's not. Your angst amuses me.

[Tashan]

Final Fantasy 7

Big Guard
Star #5
MP Cost: 56
Learn From: Beach Plug**
Location: Gongaga/Corel Area Shoreline
Game's Description: Adds [Barrier/MBarrier/Haste] to every ally
Agent0042's Rating: 5 Stars

Frog Song
Star #1
MP Cost: 5
Learn From: Touch Me*, Toxic Frog*, Christopher***
Location: Gongaga Area Forests, Temple of the Ancients, Northern Cave
Game's Description: Causes [Sleepel/Frog] on one opponent
Agent0042's Rating: 1 Star

Death Sentence
Star #21
MP Cost: 10
Learn From: Sneaky Step***, Gi Specter***, Bound Fat**
Location: Cave of the Gi, Cave of the Gi, Corel Valley
Game's Description: Pronounces death sentence on any one opponent
Agent0042's Rating: 1 Star

Dragon Force
Star #7
MP Cost: 19
Learn From: Dark Dragon**
Location: Northern Cave
Game's Description: Raises the Defense and Magic Def. level of one ally
Agent0042's Rating: 1 Star

Angel Whisper
Star #6
MP Cost: 50
Learn From: Pollensalta**
Location: Northern Cave
Game's Description: Revives, restores HP and status to any one ally
Agent0042's Rating: 4 Stars

Final Fantasy 5

Flash Inflicts Blind on all enemies.
Time Slip Inflicts Old and Sleep on one target.
Moon Flute Inflicts Berserk on all allies.
Off-Guard Halves the target's Defense.
Mind Blast Inflicts moderate non-elemental damage as well as Sap and Paralyze to one target.


Final Fantasy 6
Doom Inflicts Doom on one enemy, killing them when the timer hits zero.
Mighty Guard Bestows Protect and Shell to the party.
{Lv 3 Confuse} Casts Confuse on targets whose levels are a multiple of 3.

[Jar]

Citadel Buster
Colossal Blow(Omega)
Spike flail
Gate of Hades
Trembling or Nerve Gas
and many many more

[Scuro]

What spells do blue mage not have of other jobs then? I can't think of any of the top of my head except the ones your asking for.

Do you even understand how BLU came into this game, or exactly what it does?

Of course it has spells SIMILAR to other classes, because they are spells derived from mobs, and guess what those mobs are derived from? Thats right (sometimes amalgamations) of OTHER JOBS! No Duh we have spells that are LIKE yours, but they are not YOURS. Our spells either cost more and do more, or cost less and do less in a nut shell, so I would hardly find this idea of wanting decent buff spells and such as "B**ch-worthy".

Are we asking for our spells to be better then any other class' spells? No, yet being the REAL HYBRID class that we are, I think we warrant such spells. I'm just lost in the logic of calling a BLU a rip off class that has everything that every other job has. I mean you didn't see SCH's being called a rip off of RDM, WHM or BLM.... No, because it is original in the sense of how the job is applied as well as the actions of the class, much as BLU is original in the exact sense.

[Prothscar]

One of the few times I agree with Scuro, a momentous occasion that is a testament to this Daniel Hatcher guy's ignorance.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Do you even understand how BLU came into this game, or exactly /what it does?

Of course it has spells SIMILAR to other classes, because they are spells derived from mobs, and guess what those mobs are derived from? Thats right (sometimes amalgamations) of OTHER JOBS! No Duh we have spells that are LIKE yours, but they are not YOURS. Our spells either cost more and do more, or cost less and do less in a nut shell, so I would hardly find this idea of wanting decent buff spells and such as "B**ch-worthy".

Are we asking for our spells to be better then any other class' spells? No, yet being the REAL HYBRID class that we are, I think we warrant such spells. I'm just lost in the logic of calling a BLU a rip off class that has everything that every other job has. I mean you didn't see SCH's being called a rip off of RDM, WHM or BLM.... No, because it is original in the sense of how the job is applied as well as the actions of the class, much as BLU is original in the exact sense.

I actually never called BLU anything in this thread. I asked one simple question: what spells other than the ones requested did BLU not have already.

[Defiledsickness]

an addle spell would be cool or regain.

as far as copying other jobs goes, there's times when a Rdm should be debuffing and times when you're soloing. a blu wont typically slow or paralyze in VW as our enfeebling effects normally wear quicker and are less potent. sch almost has ONLY spells other jobs have so there's no reason to complain about blu. our only single effect spell i can think of (Chaotic Eye = Silence) is a gaze spell so we are very different then other jobs.

if cor's or sch's ever casted regain on me i'd be cool with that, but since they never do i'd like something to do this myself ^^ which is true for most effects blu's want that other jobs do. remember we can only pick spells from other jobs, monsters, or other FF games.

[Scuro]

Addle should belong to RDM, while I may hate DD RDMs and have a vendetta out for the class, there are those few that actually play the job to benefit the party, and addle is a great spell. I'm not sure I'm all joyous about WHM getting it since well... I really think that should of been a RDM onry. Yet idk, and Regain is another that should belong to the buffer jobs, while I would truly not shun any spells of this nature, for the sake of balance and because I consider myself a fair man when considering new spells and traits that are balanced, yet beneficial to the class. I feel these ideas tread the line of making the job too powerful. Honestly RDM should get Regain and further buffs like magic attack bonus boosting spells, and etc. to further establish the class is a buffer/debuffer. Coming from a SCH, the reason I can tell you nobody uses SCH TP regain, or in my case not as often as I would like to, is because 1 tic doesn't make a damn bit of difference, its too weak to warrant the casting of it. Is it beneficial? Sure it is! yet among the storms, phalanx, aquaveil, paralyze, slow, blind, and various other things i'm casting, using a perpetuance strat. on top of regain spell seems pointless. I've said this before and I'll say it again, if SE wants to see SCHs use Regain spell, they need to give the damn thing AT LEAST 2 TP a tic, and not just 1, 3 would be sweet, and anything more would just be spoiling the DDs.

Yet this is not a SCH discussion. What this class needs, is decent buffs and debuff spells, we are pretty all well and good with physical spells, and being the Galka Physical BLU that I am, I will not complain about more Physical spells, I'm not one for magical casting on my BLU, but I still have one of the best gear sets for it, so I'm not fool when it comes to the magical side either. As it stands, our debuffs are outdated, as it was addressed by Prothscar I believe in another thread, the best we got is Mind Blast, and thats just not enough to warrant equiping it. I've personally discussed with others the idea of BLU getting Hex Eye, which would be fantastic, yet that would need some refining, the damn paralyze on that procs more then a Paralyze II does, so of course I would say it needs to be toned down, and be AoE but only if the mob is facing you (much like yawn).

In terms of Slow spells, ours is fantastic, and we also have great defense down, very good blind spells, paralyze would be great, and of course in terms of buffing (seeing as many of the spells we will be receiving suite the need for physical mitigation that I was asking for prior, yet I'm still hoping for a better evasion boost to BLU through a spell) I'm holding out mainly for Protect and Shell (Crystalline Cocoon), a new evasion spell, and a phalanx like spell. Other then that I don't see BLU really NEEDING much of anything else. We don't NEED Aqua Veil, yet would it be nice, sure. This class is very plump in terms of attention from SE in the last year, and all I would say it needs is very fine tuning. We are not a broken class, but damn can we compete far better then level 75.

@Daniel_Hatcher "What spells do blue mage not have of other jobs?" was your initial comment and judging from your prior sentiment in another thread that BLU is a rip off of other classes, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a very far stretch in my response to your question. Seeing as this is pretty much again you trying to state that BLU is a class that takes too much from other classes. And as I have said, it is balanced in the manner by which we receive the spells (while this does not apply to all spells) the more a spell is, the better it is; the less a spell is, the worse it is. Do we have spells that I would say are better then other classes' that are based off of other classes' spells? Yes arguably. Does that mean that the job class is broken for doing so, or wrong for receiving such? No, because we gamble the lack of another spell due to equipping it through points, which is the reason that they must be at least DECENT, not better then others. I would hardly view it game breaking to receive SOME of the things requested by others. I'm not saying that every BLU's suggestion is fantastic, and as others in this forum know, I'll be first to step in and state if something I view is a bad idea and will say how it should be adjusted or fixed to maintain the balance of the game amongst its peer jobs.

@Prothscar I know it is a rare few times that we agree, yet usually they are instances that are very much true amongst the community of BLUs that are skilled.

[Ezekieal]

Ya hex eye would be great, though i would say a tp spell would be especially interesting as an almace blu, whether it be tp drainkiss(absorb tp) or summer breeze(regain).

On a side note something decent that chains with CdC would also be good cos atm its either sttle for fusion or use benthic, and i'd rather use benthic for the def down before CdC. So a phys spell with either gravitation or light sc properties please SE.

[Scuro]

TP Drainkiss I believe is actually in the BLU dats, and would make sense, Summer breeze would be interesting, but I think TP Drainkiss is a fare more understandable spell.
P.S
Isn't goblin rush used on it to create light last I checked?