November 2022 FINAL FANTASY XI Digest

[Alhanelem]

But the real TLDR here is even with your performance, it's still significantly longer than leveling to 75 optimally.

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I've never liked cleaving I feel like it's cheating. but at the same time, I can't pretend it doesn't work.

[Velner]

Meh. Maybe it is worse than leveling to L75 back in the day. . . maybe it's not. I know it took me months to get SMN to L75 as my second job back in the olden days when all I did was level. If I leveled like that now, I could M50 any job in a week or two. I'm not complaining either way. Nothing wrong with a little grind.

[Alhanelem]

Meh. Maybe it is worse than leveling to L75 back in the day. . . maybe it's not. I know it took me months to get SMN to L75 as my second job back in the olden days when all I did was level. If I leveled like that now, I could M50 any job in a week. I'm not complaining either way. Nothing wrong with a little grind.

Our first job always took longer because we had all the legwork like unlocking transportation tools, getting spells and gear, and the missions and stuff to do our first time out. For experienced players leveling their 10th job, 1-75 was definitely a few days at most.

My frustration is that traditional party killing (which is still sometimes done by people without someone who can do the cleaving thing) is getting worse and worse and it seems dumb to me that SE is setting the parameters for master level based on the few people who can do it the most efficiently (and least fun-ly, if I'm being honest with you).

Also, that tank needs to be pretty decked out from what I understand. simple EXP grinding shouldn't demand the same as defeating the hardest content.

[Dragoy]

My frustration is that traditional party killing (which is still sometimes done by people without someone who can do the cleaving thing) is getting worse and worse and it seems dumb to me that SE is setting the parameters for master level based on the few people who can do it the most efficiently (and least fun-ly, if I'm being honest with you).

Yeah, I doubt the "cleaving" method was ever intended, but I guess they never really did anything to stop it (maybe limit a bit?). At least they seem to acknowledge that it may affect other players in a negative way (the recent changes to the Crawlers' Nest [S]), unlike in the past ("Summoner burns" in the Korroloka Tunnel come to mind). I guess the location in this case being pretty new in a way, and there being limited areas for this activity probably had an effect in decision making.

I always avoided leveling up that way even during the Abyssea times.

Regarding master levels, at around 14, I think I'd get around 300-500 off of the colibri, making a level in about an hour or so alone with an alter ego party (one battle taking 30-60 seconds or a bit more I guess). Not horrible yet, but it seems it will become that very fast (indeed very much reminding me of trying to get to level 20 and above, solo, back in the day).

I suppose in due time they'll add rings and events that will make it more doable for everyone, but even with all the boosts for capacity points, it still took quite a bit to get 10,000 job points for a weapon upgrade (think I got around 100 per hour during bonus time, alone, and of course there's the weekly limit one could turn those in too, which is always a fun way to make things take longer (no, it's not, really)), so not much looking forward to actually grinding these in.

Guess they'll slowly come in due time... or not. ^^;