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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Because DRK can hit the 80% haste cap without Soul Voice now and adding a critical hit WS to DRK after that would break the game? Even without outside haste DRK will be able to have 50% haste 72% of the time. DRK just became the highest DPSing job in the game (yes I'm looking at you MNK)
    Hmmm, However as with Raging Rush, Making either Guillotine or Insurgency Critical hit based Doesn't suddenly make it game breaking. Hell, Make Ground Strike Critical hit? Or Cross Reaper. or Spiral hell.

    While a 1-hit Crit WS may be less than powerful out-side Abyssea, They can be done right. I think giving those WS a chance to crit will help DRK a lot.

    They got a lot of love with that Last Resort boost for sure, But giving them one last bone will silence a lot more of the complaints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dart View Post
    if you have a bard available fulltime (like I do) this buff isn't as earthbreaking as many of you believe it to be.

    Without Soul Voice the 80% haste cap can only be reached for 30 seconds out of every 4:10

    With this change you will now be able to hit the hard cap for haste 72% of the time without Soul Voice. So yes it's a huge, huge upgrade.

    And haste is *not* like double attack where adding more is a linear progression. It's a curve. An additional 5% haste adds much more damage when you already have 75% haste than it does when you have 25% haste.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 04-23-2011 at 11:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Without Soul Voice the 80% haste cap can only be reached for 30 seconds out of every 4:10

    With this change you will now be able to hit the hard cap for haste 72% of the time without Soul Voice. So yes it's a huge, huge upgrade.

    And haste is *not* like double attack where adding more is a linear progression. It's a curve. An additional 5% haste adds much more damage when you already have 75% haste than it does when you have 25% haste.
    as I said if you have a bard fulltime this isn't as earthshattering as you're making it out to be. I am in no way saying that it isn't a nice addition.

    25% from gear

    (I can never remember which) 43-44% from magic status. Basically i'm getting a boost of 12% in haste for that duration. its nice but not gamebreaking and certainly doesn't make up for how weak our ws's are compared to the other mainsteam jobs.
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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dart View Post
    as I said if you have a bard fulltime this isn't as earthshattering as you're making it out to be. I am in no way saying that it isn't a nice addition.

    25% from gear

    (I can never remember which) 43-44% from magic status. Basically i'm getting a boost of 12% in haste for that duration. its nice but not gamebreaking and certainly doesn't make up for how weak our ws's are compared to the other mainsteam jobs.
    Magical haste cap is 43.75% but you can't reach it with a single BRD without Soul Voice. The best you can get is 36.5% (12.5+9+15) or 61.5% haste. the difference between 61.5% and 80% is nearly double the DPS.



    Assuming a Woeborn (Delay 528 Damage 131)

    25% haste: Delay 396 DPS 19.84

    35% haste: Delay 343.2 DPS 22.9

    50% haste: Delay 264 DPS 29.77

    61.5% haste: Delay 203.28 DPS 38.66

    68.75% haste: Delay 167.64 DPS 46.88

    80% haste: Delay 105.6 DPS 74.43
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 04-23-2011 at 03:01 PM.

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    Player Jar's Avatar
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    You can cast with LAst resort up so -25% RECAST!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Without Soul Voice the 80% haste cap can only be reached for 30 seconds out of every 4:10
    This is not true. With a Dnc with merited haste samba and Sam SJ, you can have 80% haste even without Brd soul voice.
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    Player Jar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    This is not true. With a Dnc with merited haste samba and Sam SJ, you can have 80% haste even without Brd soul voice.
    25+36+20 = 80 right!

    but who plays dance?
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    Admittedly not many people.... Just trying to show that LR update is not as "earthshattering" as some people are making it out to be, especially under high buff situations.
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    Player Jar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Admittedly not many people.... Just trying to show that LR update is not as "earthshattering" as some people are making it out to be, especially under high buff situations.
    Its a big deal because most the time it will put us 10-15% haste above other ppl
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