[dev1010] Dark Knight's Adjustments

[Neisan_Quetz]

So SE gave Drk Critical Attack bonus to nerf Critical hits?

[Cljader1]

This is a good start SE but you still need to address our 2-hour ability, its really embarrassing dncs basically have this ability to use whenever they like. Blood Weapon should not be a 2-hour but rather a regular job ability, please give us a worth while 2hr every job has a better 2hour than drk.

[Atomic_Skull]

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Also, it's Ignore Defense trait needs to be boosted. 10% chance at 100TP is kinda low.

It's not a 10% chance to ignore defense. It just ignores 10% of the target's DEF. It's basically the same thing as 10% attack boost on the WS.

[Nariont]

No one TOUCHED Evisceration before Abyssea. It was all Dancing Edge. And King's Justice was damn good in Merit Parties Pre-lv80. Crit WS are what they are in game now because of Razed Ruin, it's simple as that.

except no and no. Evis was becoming a rising favorite among anyone who could use it, originally it was only if you had x's, then people started figuring out its crit rate, now with all the crit dmg gear its even more obvious. Raging rush was always the top ws unless you were using mighty strikes. The only difference between then and now is that the gap wasnt hugely massive. But my point is in pretty much all cases, if a weapon had a crit ws, it was the better ws', that was true even before aby it just wasnt horribly obvious.

[Karbuncle]

No one TOUCHED Evisceration before Abyssea. It was all Dancing Edge. And King's Justice was damn good in Merit Parties Pre-lv80. Crit WS are what they are in game now because of Razed Ruin, it's simple as that.

That's just incorrect. Before Abyssea Evisceration was better than DE with the right armor. (Admittedly it was X's Knife, and Preferably Mandau main-hand). But it had its chance to shine thanks to X's Knife. It wasn't widely known/accepted due to what was needed to make it worth-while, but it wasn't a straight universal "DE > EVIS".

Secondly, Times change my good sir. it doesn't matter what we did pre-abyssea, considering what we've gained since then. (even though the whole "DE > Evisc" Was wrong back then, Its just Evisc wasn't reliable enough to be considered superior, it did have higher damage spikes to any THF who bothered to toy with it, its just back then the relatively limited gear options for Crit+DMG and Crit-hit-rate made it undesirable)

We've gained access to a multitude of more Critical hit Damage+ armor and Job Traits since Abyssea. Outside of Abyssea, Given perfect gear for it, a THF could get +30% Critical hit Damage (OMG SAME AS RAZED RUINZZZ). Their Critical hit Rate would be lower, But not by enough to make it worse than DE.

Dominion-Jambiya Perfect x2 - (12% Crit Damage combined)
Job Trait - 8%
Loki's - 5%
Qirmiz Tathlum - 5% (according to Wiki)

So while yes, Before Abyssea it was less than desirable without the proper gear up to X's Knife and preferably a relic, Since Abyssea We've gained a lot of Armor/Traits to make use of that Ability, its not Abyssea-Specific. Out-side of Abyssea a properly geared THF will always win with Evisc over Dancing Edge.

ON topic of the VIT-Crit Nerf. I've addressed that already, Just read one of my earlier posts... Its there somewhere.

But anywho, Congratulation DRKS >.>?

[Therin]

Raging rush was always the top ws unless you were using mighty strikes. The only difference between then and now is that the gap wasnt hugely massive. But my point is in pretty much all cases, if a weapon had a crit ws, it was the better ws', that was true even before aby it just wasnt horribly obvious.

We did this math to death on BG and found out that unless you had (I believe it was, it's been a while) a 22% critical hit rate or higher, King's Justice would outperform Raging Rush on average. That required something like +35 DEX for a Mithra and nearly +45 DEX for an Elvaan on Greater Colibri (with Claymore Grip and Zahak's Mail) and even more for most other monsters. So, overall you could say that King's Justice is better, unless you have a very particular set of gear for Raging Rush.

[vedder]

so for the average drk this update helps but its not enough is what we are all coming to conclusion correct? an wth, when did drk forum start talking about thf an wars ws other then to admittedly q.q bout them vs us ?

[Unctgtg]

Hey Therin, I see u have a map of Raleigh if thats raleigh, which I think it is. I am in Morrisville.