[dev1010] Spirits

[DerianX]

I would guess that the only reason they even exist is because avatars used to be difficult to acquire. SE probably felt that summoners should have something readily available other than Carbuncle back when Zilart first came out.

I must say though, that I've always found it odd that they have such a high perpetuation cost.

[Alhanelem]

I would guess that the only reason they even exist is because avatars used to be difficult to acquire. SE probably felt that summoners should have something readily available other than Carbuncle back when Zilart first came out.

I must say though, that I've always found it odd that they have such a high perpetuation cost.

That's part of it- As I explained earlier- Summoner was added, sort of a suprise, with the prepratory patch for Rise of the Zilart. It does not itself require rise of the zilart, however all of the avatars do require an expansion, except for carbuncle which is given for free. If you didn't get the expansion, carbuncle would be your only spell if the spirits weren't there.

[Swords]

I would guess that the only reason they even exist is because avatars used to be difficult to acquire. SE probably felt that summoners should have something readily available other than Carbuncle back when Zilart first came out.

I must say though, that I've always found it odd that they have such a high perpetuation cost.

Then again, most SMN based mobs use elementals so it stands to at least a degree they "intended" on giving them more purpose than they have now back when they were implemented. It's just hard to say really, I mean did SE put the demon Summoners in castle zhval before SMN was accessable or after.

[Duelle]

An idea I once had for spirits was to just entirely remove the Spirit's AI and make them untargetable. In exchange, the summoner gets access to a select spell library dependent on the spirit currently out and about. Fire Spirit active? You have (as an example) Fire I-III, Burn and Pyrohelix, but their damage modifiers are all derived from Summoning Magic skill with a small penalty in additional MP costs on top of spirit perpetuation. The downside is that none of that is hate-free (which is basically the benefit of having avatars out).

Spell lists and overall numbers would have to be looked at, but that'd be the gist of it.