Please Rework "FULL BREAK'S" effectiveness + other GA ws's like it DEV TEAM /wave

[Mrbeansman]

lol Tell you what Mrbean, out of concern that such foolishness will possibly get my thread locked, if it will in fact help you drop the topic then "yes", by offering up a (as you put it) "decent" suggestion on these general discussion boards I have in fact inspired others to try their hand at proposing their own ideas to the Dev Team. Whether they are quality ideas or not. END
Thanks for your feedback... wait... actually I don't think you had any feedback based on the thread topic... but no matter. /take care

Not sure doesn't sound very sincere.

And whats there to say that hasn't been said already? It's a dumb idea unlike your last decent one.

[Rezeak]

I think that asking a WAR to sacrifice it's hardest hitting abilty (aka Weapon skill) to enfeeble a mob isn't the way to go.

If you want them to be used just make them Job abiltys but rememeber they shouldn't take the limelight from Angon or Feint

[Zyeriis]

No you really have to have a working content ID to post on these forums. And really I posted that when the servers where down to draw out the "abyssea is killing the game" morons like Krystal cause I was bored.



What the fuck does this even mean? Are saying you knew it was a troll thread but called me out on posting it anyway?



I would stop but he seems determined to avoid any responsibility in this case.

1) No you don't need an active content ID or I wouldn't have been able to post/join the forums during the week the servers were down.
2) You either A) Didn't actually read what I wrote and then quoted me, B) an idiot, or C) An experienced troll. All options are negative, no more need be said.
3) You "would" stop? I can see where your argument lays: "He's making me do it!" Same as your argument that he's somehow forcing/influences idiots to post idiotic things, much like you are doing. Which, like I said, you've already proved (though it is through your own free will that you are posting nonsense, not his fault, no matter how you want to play it).

Trolling or not, stupid ideas are the fault of the people who think of them, as are stupid posts the fault of those who write them. Trying to place blame on some one else superficially is just pathetic. Which you are now trying to pin 2 different instances of upon him. 1) That he is responsible for idiotic ideas that belong to other people and 2) that your idiotic posts are his doing. Ridiculous.

That's all I have left to say on this matter, done with this diversion attempt to place blame on some one else for other people's horrible ideas. No way that him getting any sort of praise from the dev team could inspire a good idea right? Would he get credit for those ideas too, regardless of any relation to his idea? No. I certainly wouldn't see you praising him instead were that the case.

[Tamarsamar]

The art was created for the concept, so they go together and I see no reason to change it based on such types of misunderstandings and assumptions.

[sarcasm]I never would've guessed.[/sarcasm]

Seriously, though, if you can't see that the thing reeks of narcissism, then, well, perhaps you're narcissist . . .

Wow... you successfully dodged that bit of "clear example" and have replaced it with something else entirely... uhh.. hmm.. Lets try one last time.
The watermelon in my example would represent "Full Break". If you managed to rework how it functioned (the way the effects were calculated), it would possibly alter the other weapon based enfeebles in FFXI by in turn sharing those new calculations. I don't think I can put it any more plane than that... so hopefully that clears it up for you.

Again, it was already blatantly obvious what you meant by this, but since I am so naive as to believe that you can be taught that you're wrong, I'm going to try and say this one last time:

Adjustments to Full Break do NOTHING for any other Weapon Skill at all.

Why you seem to consistently fail to understand that is what baffles me. Can hubris really extend so far as to mire even basic concepts?

Yeah... thanks for clearing that up >< /stagger. Reason works just fine with me, it's the opposite of it that I'm not to keen on. Yes, I'm quite aware that SE has a very capable legal department that understands the laws associated with "suggestions" offered up by players should they chose to implement them, so you have nothing to worry about in regards to me demanding a check. That, and I'm not an idiot... no offense to idiots though.

If reason "worked fine with you," you would've seen that adjusting Full Break doesn't affect any other Weapon Skill three pages ago! Furthermore, should reason have "worked fine with you," you would've seen how utterly silly you look by making your current signature. Hopefully, you can see why I would be given reason to doubt this statement.



Pride, man. It's one heck of a drug.

[Mrbeansman]

Hai guys let me slow down our kill speed by doing armor break hur hur hur.

[noodles355]

Kingfury, your reply to me is 6 pages back, but I dont camp the forums to I was unable to replay immidately to your response.

My problem is not with you wanting to buff warrior. My problem is your suggestions without any actual prior thought to your suggestions in regards to any form of game balance. As I stated, a 37.5% increase is the same as giving every DD in the party/alliance a +60% Attack buff. That;s not huge, that's broken.

[Mirage]

To kingfury.

the -25% damage reduction has been tested extensively with parsers to find an average amount of damage increase after using it vs before.

You say you haven't noticed a difference, well that could very well be true, but that doesn't change the fact that the def down is definitely there, and if you're not going to notice a 25% decrease in def through "eyeing it" (which is an incredibly unreliable and imprecise way to test anything), you're probably wouldn't notice a 35% decrease either. Furthermore, you will notice far less of a damage increase on mobs with low defence already, which means just about *any* EXP mob the last years. Colibris aren't exactly known for having high defence, and in abyssea, attack values are already laughably high.

Also, if you don't like his sig, just block it and stop whining about it. Going off topic doesn't help your case.

[kingfury]

[sarcasm]I never would've guessed.[/sarcasm]

Seriously, though, if you can't see that the thing reeks of narcissism, then, well, perhaps you're narcissist . . .

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That or you have serious envy issues you should address before commenting further. I'm done with this topic, thanks.
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Again, it was already blatantly obvious what you meant by this, but since I am so naive as to believe that you can be taught that you're wrong, I'm going to try and say this one last time:
Adjustments to Full Break do NOTHING for any other Weapon Skill at all.

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Right, because you've attempted to be open-minded and offer creativity on this topic at which point? My replies to what you've said is all due to your lack of willingness to understand a thing I've said /stagger. "YOU", thankfully, are in no position to say whether or not adjustments to Full Break is a worthy suggestion, so while your opinion is excepted here, your closed-minded responses do little to add to the discussion. I'll await feedback from a worthy source, thanks.
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If reason "worked fine with you," you would've seen that adjusting Full Break doesn't affect any other Weapon Skill three pages ago! Furthermore, should reason have "worked fine with you," you would've seen how utterly silly you look by making your current signature. Hopefully, you can see why I would be given reason to doubt this statement.

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Annnd rinse and repeat the last two responses. Thanks again for your time. /

[Rambus]

shame this thread ended up like this

[kingfury]

To kingfury.
the -25% damage reduction has been tested extensively with parsers to find an average amount of damage increase after using it vs before.
You say you haven't noticed a difference, well that could very well be true, but that doesn't change the fact that the def down is definitely there, and if you're not going to notice a 25% decrease in def through "eyeing it" (which is an incredibly unreliable and imprecise way to test anything), you're probably wouldn't notice a 35% decrease either. Furthermore, you will notice far less of a damage increase on mobs with low defence already, which means just about *any* EXP mob the last years. Colibris aren't exactly known for having high defence, and in abyssea, attack values are already laughably high.
Also, if you don't like his sig, just block it and stop whining about it. Going off topic doesn't help your case.

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I hear ya ^^ and again those numbers were just a ballpark figure in regards to beefing up the effectiveness. But I have to say that's part of the problem in my opinion. Should I be able to see a difference? What good is it to have a ws that is dang-near non noticeable?? That's where my request is birthed to be honest. Imagine if folks stacked haste gear but saw no visible increase in attack speed. Or Movement speed for that matter. Folks would furious if the only reassurance they got that these things were working, was, "Oh it's there, but you just can't notice it by eye-balling it!"

So that brings me to the point at hand; what if you could see the results from Full Break and other enfeebling ws's much more prominently? That's what I wish to suggest to the Devs.