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    Player Ravenmore's Avatar
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    Why, not like Sams use polearms any more for dmg and wars get even lower skill then sam. Only time you'll see a sam use polearm now is to proc red or for a small chance to proc blu. Another reason so many sams used polearm in the first place was the mobs that everyone wanted to merit on were birds. I have a feeling if they buff across the board war and sam WS would get better and never know they might even throw little love drks way least I would hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    Why, not like Sams use polearms any more for dmg and wars get even lower skill then sam. Only time you'll see a sam use polearm now is to proc red or for a small chance to proc blu. Another reason so many sams used polearm in the first place was the mobs that everyone wanted to merit on were birds. I have a feeling if they buff across the board war and sam WS would get better and never know they might even throw little love drks way least I would hope.
    I said it could use updating but not to go overboard with it, why would it be fair for it to outdo Drakesbane? that is what i ment by I hope they do not go overboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    See to me the Quested Weapon Skills, Should have been the best, highest Damage weaponskills in the game. (I'm looking at you Savage Blade, considering what a pain in the butt you were to get compared to the other quested weaponskills.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraniku View Post
    See to me the Quested Weapon Skills, Should have been the best, highest Damage weaponskills in the game. (I'm looking at you Savage Blade, considering what a pain in the butt you were to get compared to the other quested weaponskills.)
    before mythic ws i would agree but

    power wise:

    relic>emp>mythic >WSNM> others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    before mythic ws i would agree but

    power wise:

    relic>emp>mythic >WSNM> others.
    Is that your opinion on how things are, or how things should be?
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    I'd like to make more use of Warp Sting. Is there any hope for a kitteh like me?
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    It should be then some drgs would bother getting it. Its not just abyburned drgs that don't have it lot of old shcool drgs never bothered with it.
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    lets hope 'adjustments' goes in the positive way....
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    A little late in reply, but just to point out:
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfury View Post
    I'm asking that they be revised to function in a way that actually makes the ws's worth using while wielding a GA.
    So you want breaks worked to still be relevant at lv. 75+? What about other WS? Double Thrust? Viper Bite? Fast Blade? Raging Axe? Etc etc.
    If you want to boost break WSs then you should want to boost all the low level WSs too.

    Because the argument "Breaks were never good" is a complete falacy. In earlier days, in low level parties, the accepted "rule" to being a good Gaxe user (even on drk, if you were going for best performance, you'd use a gaxe in the 20s/30s) was "Below 50%HP, sturmwind, above 50%TP, Shield break for the -evasion boost. Because you can still have epicly good accuracy gear, PCC and other high price items, but accuracy is still the biggest hinderance to low level DDs. (Back in a time when leveling mattered, before abyssea).

    But yeah, if you were a good WAR, then you used Shield Break and Sturmwind depending on the situation.

    WSs are designed to get outdated. In the 20s, Double Thrust was a good WS. By the 50s it's completely worthless because of getting Penta Thrust. The same is true for Raging Axe and Rampage. Combo and raging fists. Fast blade and vorpal blade. etc etc etc. WS get outdated. There's no real logical reason to boost those old "Break" WSs by themselves.

    If we're talking about Full Break, and that it's a WSNM WS that's useless then that is a fair point, however I would state:
    1) Many WSNM WSs are crap. (G)Impulse Drive? Crap. Black Halo? Crap. Decimation? Crap. Savage Blade? 90% Crap. etc etc.
    2) If you want to fix Full Break, you should want to fix the other crap WSNM WSs too. I wouldn't mind a fix to make some of the WSNM WSs better, and I hope that lsat developer's reply was regarding WSNM WSs.

    *I say these WSNM WSs ars "crap", what I mean is lower skill level ws are better. like Penta Thrust > Gimpulse Drive. Rampage > Decimation. Vorpal Sword > Savage Blade, etc etc etc.
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    This sums up my views/beliefs in regards to this topic. Post 119
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