Please Rework "FULL BREAK'S" effectiveness + other GA ws's like it DEV TEAM /wave

[noodles355]

Agreeing with you that break WSs suck =/= agreeing with you that they should be changed.

I think kingfury is unable to comprehend this statement. I believe I've used the same argument with him in the past. Somehow he believe agreeing with his statement of the problem means you agree with his solution to the problem.

Because of course, it's impossible to agree with you that your opening statement of "Break WS suck" and yet disagree with your solution to fix this problem.

Hey kingfury. Theft is a problem in the United Kingdom. I believe to fix this problem everyone who steals should be immidiately killed without trial, what they stole is irrelevant, whether it's a candy bar or a car.

Theft is a problem in the United Kingdom, this is a fact. You will agree with this fact. So as you agree with that part of my post then surely you must agree with everything I wrote in this post and must also believe everyone who steals a candy bar should be killed?
No, of course you don't.

[kingfury]

You: Sometimes good players kill things slow because their mages suck.
wish12oz: No, you are better off killing quickly so there is less time/chances for things to go wrong
You: Some mobs can one shot you.
I read the whole thing, and several posts before and after it. I read them a couple times, which is usually the case with your posts. It's pretty straight forward, you tried to make a point that has no basis in reality, got shot down for it, and used a poor argument to back it up.
Agreeing with you that break WSs suck =/= agreeing with you that they should be changed. Nobody here is supporting your idea in the slightest.

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@.@ people like you worry me.

I didn't say that agreeing with me that the ws's suck equated to them agreeing with the fact they needed to be altered... just that they agreed the ws's suck. Are you purposely trying to find ways to make me sound wrong in order to make yourself sound right? Because this sort of thing is just scary.

[kingfury]

Just had a thought...

Another possibility:

-What if, after inflicting a set amount/percentage of a particular enfeeble at the point of striking a target with one of the 4 Break weaponskills, they then worked similar to how DNC's Steps function? For anyone that doesn't know about how Steps works:
-Steps are used to enfeeble an enemy, while at the same time generating the Finishing Moves required to perform Flourishes. The enfeebling effects produced by Steps can be stacked up to five times. The more times an effect is stacked, the more powerful it becomes.
Perhaps directly after you use a Break weaponskill, Armor Break for instance, the more you land successful melee hits on the target the more bolstered your melee damage would become. The ws would still cause some damage upon using it, but after inflicting the initial enfeebling effect, it would have a bolstering of stats effect so the concept of the enfeeble can become more apparent over time. It could still of course have a determined duration window of effect, but once it's effect duration has reached it's end and worn off the bolstered damage would also disappear. It could even have the "Defense down" effect animation added to each melee hit to the target similar to how most additional effect enfeebling weapons function. The same goes for the other corresponding ws's.

So then, Shield break once landed on a high evasion monster would see a percentage drop to it's evasion and improve Accuracy to the players over the course of the user successfully landing hits on the target. So this would bolster +Accuracy per successful melee hit to all party members within the area of effect.

[Mirage]

War is the strongest DD in the damned game, we shouldn't get more buffs, not until other jobs that actually need them do. EOD.

[kingfury]

War is the strongest DD in the damned game, we shouldn't get more buffs, not until other jobs that actually need them do. EOD.

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Since this is in fact related to the topic at hand indirectly, I really want to explore this mentality for a second. I've heard it a dozen times now since being on these boards, and I really think people believe that WAR should not get anything new ever again all the way up to 99 /stagger.

What do you think WAR should get between now and 99? And why or why not.

[Mirage]

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Since this is in fact related to the topic at hand indirectly, I really want to explore this mentality for a second. I've heard it a dozen times now since being on these boards, and I really think people believe that WAR should not get anything new ever again all the way up to 99 /stagger.

What do you think WAR should get between now and 99? And why or why not.

War has gotten lots of things between 75 and 90. Now at 90, it would be fine if war didn't get a lot more powerful stuff until other jobs have caught up with us.

What war gets from 91-99 can be left for when that level cap is implemented. It probably won't be this.

[kingfury]

War has gotten lots of things between 75 and 90. Now at 90, it would be fine if war didn't get a lot more powerful stuff until other jobs have caught up with us.

What war gets from 91-99 can be left for when that level cap is implemented. It probably won't be this.

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Why even add this last part lol It may not be this, but who knows.

We didn't get any more than anyone one else got in terms of abilities and ws's did we?

[Mirage]

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Why even add this last part lol It may not be this, but who knows.

We didn't get any more than anyone one else got in terms of abilities and ws's did we?

What we got was overall stronger than what most other DDs got. We got blood rage for example, which is much better than anything drk got, even though drk needed buffs way more than war did.

[Zyeriis]

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Why even add this last part lol It may not be this, but who knows.

We didn't get any more than anyone one else got in terms of abilities and ws's did we?

Warrior got...
78 Critical Attack Bonus
80 Shield Mastery
80 Shield Defense Bonus
81 Resist Virus V
84 Fencer IV
86 Defense Bonus II
90 Critical Attack Bonus II
77 Restraint
87 Blood Rage

Samurai got...

77 Sengikori
87 Hamanoha (lolwut?)
78 Skillchain Bonus

Dragoon got...

77 Spirit Jump
85 Soul Jump
87 Dragon Breaker (lolwut?)
78 Accuracy Bonus III
85 Critical Defense Bonus

Dark Knight got...

78 Nether Void
87 Arcane Crest (lolwut?)
76 Attack Bonus V
84 Occult Acumen IV
85 Critical Attack Bonus
88 Tactical Parry

Ranger got...

79 Double Shot
87 Bounty Shot
76 Accuracy Bonus V
78 True Shot
80 Conserve TP
81 Resist Poison V
90 Rapid Shot II

Going to stop there. Who got more? (Lol, Tachi: Ageha)

[kingfury]

@ Noodles:
lol why on earth are you guys still on this thread if all you are doing is trying to misconstrue and alter the things I say?! I'm beginning to think this has become some strange form of amusement for you @.@;

Constructive Suggestions and comments on the topic eh, or go poke sticks at another thread where someone can be mad with you lol /shoo now