Please Rework "FULL BREAK'S" effectiveness + other GA ws's like it DEV TEAM /wave

[kingfury]

@ Eeek: You started okay with this post, but your last line reduced you back to having the "Crabs in the bucket" mentality sense my signature was never(and still isn't) the topic of this thread.

Ok, just so you know, Your "opinion" of my suggestion does not equate to a "Valid Criticism". Understand? Trying to argue your opinion as if it's the final say so does not help to sway me on my opinion. I hear your opinions and give my responses based on my opinions. Make sense?

I wouldn't say you had a "Bad Idea" so much as I would say you were unknowledgeable about what you were suggesting. The posters of that thread you created simply educated you on things you didn't understand. In my case, I KNOW GA's break ws's are terribly inefficient through using them over, and over, and over, and over through the years. I'm not unknowledgeable of that fact at all, so I don't have a "Bad Idea" in regards to suggesting improvements to the ws. Make sense?

I won't address the signature dribble anymore at this point. It's bred from an insecure mentality and really shouldn't be fed anymore.

[SNK]

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Bah, I've already dealt with this sort of misunderstanding regarding my Sig choice in another thread. Can't help how you feel about things like that.

It's not a bad sig per say but it's a bit overbearing and reeks of a little too much fanboysim. No offense. >_>

[kingfury]

Ughh >< none taken. No amount of words from me can help change the minds of people that choose to not understand /stagger

[Eeek]

Ughh >< none taken. No amount of words from me can help change the minds of people that choose to not understand /stagger

Oh come on! This is totally the pot calling the kettle black.

I wouldn't say you had a "Bad Idea" so much as I would say you were unknowledgeable about what you were suggesting. The posters of that thread you created simply educated you on things you didn't understand.

Woah! You night want to step back, calm yourself, take your foot out of your mouth, and take a look around. Look at my sig. I've been playing BLM for years. Feel free to look up my FFXIAH profile. BLM is there as clear as day.

I see from your profile that your BLM is level 2. Unless you're more knowledgeable about game mechanics than you let on, you have no grounds for calling me out in such a clumsy manner. I'm not foolish enough to claim my BLM as among the best in Vana'diel, much less my own world, but to say that my BLM is anything other than solid would reek of so strongly of false humility as to insult the intelligence of everyone around me.

I won't address the signature dribble anymore at this point. It's bred from an insecure mentality and really shouldn't be fed anymore.

Yes, it should be addressed, and I'll tell you why. It's symbolic of a descent into smarmy douchebaggery.

Your first impression here was a good one. You came off as genuinely nice, eager, and passionate about the game. People genuinely felt good for you wne your idea was the first, if I recall correctly, to see recognition from the Community Team and appear on the Twitter feed. In a sense, it was a victory for all of us players after years of stone silence from SE.

Then the sig appeared. As did subsequent ideas.

That little nod of recognition changed you. No longer humble and genuinely nice, you arrogantly treated your concepts as if they were gold. You passionately and endlessly attacked anyone who disagreed with your concepts or supporting arguments. You lapped up the adoration of your fans while casually dismissing any criticism.

You are Icarus, and you're flying too close to the Sun. Myself, along with other posters, are trying to help you and pull you back from the brink of self-destruction, but in light of our concern, all you do is slap us in the face with arrogant insults claiming that we're "unknowledgeable about what [we were] suggesting" and that our concerns and criticisms are "bred from an insecure mentality."

I'm not quoting those phrases for emphasis. I'm literally quoting your words.

Look, we all want to like the seemingly nice, exuberant Galka with a head full of ideas, but that little nod of recognition from SE has taken a dark toll over the past weeks. You've fallen from "seemingly nice, exuberant Galka with a head full of ideas," to "smarmy douchebag with the overbearing sig," and now you're honestly descending into Krystal/Naturesbeckles territory. We're trying to help pull you back, because we don't want that little recognition from SE to turn you from a nice Galka into a total joke of a poster.

If you embrace the Krystal/Naturesbeckles mentality, then we can never take one of you concepts seriously ever again. All your future threads will be trolled, moderated to hell, and ultimately locked. And that would be a shame.

You used to be such a nice poster.

[kingfury]

@Eeek:
Eeek, show me ONE post where you are trying to say anything constructive to me. Put the link here so I can go back over it and read it twice. You're very 1st post to me had nothing in regards to a "helping tone".

I don't respond nicely to all attacking post if that's what you're asking me to do. I defend myself where I see the need to do so, but I've never reached the degrading level that you and the pack of flamers on this thread have reached when trying to defend their opinions.

And yes, you're quoting what I posted, all while cutting and pasting two separate points together in an effort to validate your point. It's like what the media does everyday. Here, let me fix it back for you right quick:

-The "being unknowledgeable about what you were posting" was in regards to your reference to your BLM refresh thread.
-The "bred from insecure mentality" was in response to your comment about my signature.

And yet you want me to respond in a "happy friendly nature" to your post when you are making a sport out of misconstruing just about 99.99% of the things I post.

If I'm supportive of my posted suggestions, it's because I honestly believe they would be nice additions to the game. Why else would I take time to post them to the Dev Team if I didn't? Everyone is going to have their opinions about ideas posted, but that doesn't make their opinions any better than yours. Ultimately, the Devs have the final say so on these boards to whether or not suggestions can be worth the trouble of implementing, so flame as much you like, you're not the only intended audience to each suggestion posted here.

I can't believe I'm doing this. /sigh For the umteenth time, the feedback I received didn't promote me to create my signature, the fact that I worked on the damn post for weeks creating original artwork and ideas with my own two hands is what did. Who are you to tell me that I shouldn't be proud of the work and time I invested into the post and create a signature to pay tribute to finishing the concept? See what I'm saying? Even after explaining my reasons before, like now, there's nothing more I can say to help you or anyone else see it for what it is. If you already made up in your mind that it's "arrogant" or "gloating" in nature wth else do you want me to say? lol /sigh I know exactly why I made the darn thing, so just because you've formulated your own beliefs as to why it's there means little in hindsight of the truth.

[Eeek]

You went full Krystal, man. Never go full Krystal.

[kingfury]

lol find me a post of yours that's constructive before you pin me with that ^^

Now it genuinely saddens me that you sound as if everything I just said went right over your head

If you want to see a happy poster in me, open your mind to what I'm saying. You don't have to like what I'm saying, but at least show me that you are listening to the clear english being typed. I read each line of your post and respond accordingly, hell I just had to fix part of yours Eeek! lol

I'm a very pleasant fellow, just not to flamers and close-minded people that try to belittle others all day.
I've explained multiple time now why I think the Break ws's could use some improvement, only to be met with flamed opinions that "I'm an idiot" or "retarded" because I honestly believe it can be done correctly should the Devs take the time to work on it.

Even off topic stuff like my signature. Even after explaining multiple times as to why I chose to put it there, you're still firing mess that it "comes off as this and that".

I've only been on these boards for so long Eeek(/glances over at my join date), so I find it a little funny when you say, "You use to be such a nice poster" lol. But in this thread alone, I've commended those very flamers that have doubled back after posting completely non related posts and in fact given feedback to the topic at hand. Yeah, I'm right up there with Hitler with that kind of stuff >.> /stagger ^^

[Zyeriis]

Perception outweighs Conception.

You're both "arguing" the same thing, just on different matters. King, there is no denial that people perceive that your signature is inflated with arrogance. You can't stop it, only accept it and change it. If you can't see that, then there's no helping it, you're being closed minded. Also, you are also guilty of false perceptions because you perceive the break weaponskills to not be potent based on years of "eye-balling" it. The concept of the breaks and their effectiveness is there, regardless of whether you can visibly see it or not. So, as I said, perception outweighs conception. The only "improvement" I'd agree with is with the chatlog informing you of when the effect wears off, like it does with other enfeebling weapon skills such as Gekko (silence) and Kasha (paralyze). An enfeebling proc message would be nice as well but not necessary. Other than that, no, just because you haven't noticed it, doesn't mean it's not there. You cannot perceive everything through sight alone.

[kingfury]

Hey Zyerlis

Ok, check this out. The hundreds of players that have been "eyeballing" their Relic ws damage over the years are not wrongly perceiving the fact that their weapons should be bolstered in comparison to the new smexy Empy weapons. You've hear the phrase "What you see is what you get" before right? Well, in their case, all of those players can "SEE" that their ws damage sucks in comparison to the new Emp. ws's.

We're all playing a visual game that has very visual aspects to it's systems. If you repeated to spam your ws's throughout a game session only to find you're doing 100 dmg, would you perceive that something is wrong? Absolutely. If Dia III suddenly stopped displaying the appropriate DoT values by what players can visibly "SEE" from the monster's HP bar, that's all they would have to go on when perceiving if the spell is functioning as intended since you don't see the DoT displayed above the monsters head or in the chat log.

I'm not arguing the same thing with folks like Eeek in regards to my signature by a long shot. My signature has an image that was created from the Gyms post, along with the title of the post, and my name. That it. It does not include text saying, "Now what boieee!" or "This concept is the one that got positive feedback, so read it now!" attached with it. If in fact it did, then I would 1st /slap my own self, and then commence to remove the "gloating" and "arrogant" text from the signature. As it stands, it is simply a cover made to represent something I put a ton of work into. That's not being closed minded, that's the truth.

Thanks for feedback.

[Zyeriis]

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I'm sorry king, I'm not even going to bother attempting to remotely defend you now. That was an extremely closed minded post that did in no way pertain/respond to what I said. Again, I will say it again, it does not matter what your intent/concept was behind the signature. It is, and will continue to be, perceived as arrogant, you cannot change this. The fact that you cannot even see the plausibility in the perception that it is arrogant is how you are close-minded. Which, need I remind you, is the definition of close-minded: the inability to perceive what some one else does.