[dev1010] Job Adjustments - VIT Adjustment and THF

[Karbuncle]

I just find it extremely unlikely that this is a global enemy-adjustment, something that affects the entire game, and they just simply chose not to include that in the notes. The way it is worded makes it seem that this is just a player-adjustment, but meh.. Resume panicking I guess?

I don't believe in Coincidences my good sir. In the day and age of "Crit or gtfo", we suddenly come across a adjustment that directly targets Critical Hit damage, left purposefully vague as to rather it effect player and Enemy, Or just Player.

Its not really a Panic either, Its more of a "Worry". There is a chance this will severely impact my favorite job (THF), So i have the right to be worried?

lets say your Favorite job is WAR, out of nowhere they said "To provide Balance, We're looking into ways to adjust Ukko's Fury, Raging rush, and WAR job Abilities" Would you be like "Fuck yeah! WAR BUFF!" or would you be more like "Oh, This doesn't sound good..."

Its typical for people to be a little worried, as long as they don't go around waving "ITS THE FU*KING WARPOCALYPSE, SELL YOUR RELIC WAR ACCOUNTS, TOSS YOUR UKONVASARAS!!! THE END IS HERE"

Theres a difference between hysteria-panic and "Worry". I'm in the "Worry" stage.

[Krisan]

I don't believe in Coincidences my good sir. In the day and age of "Crit or gtfo", we suddenly come across a adjustment that directly targets Critical Hit damage, left purposefully vague as to rather it effect player and Enemy, Or just Player.

Its not really a Panic either, Its more of a "Worry". There is a chance this will severely impact my favorite job (THF), So i have the right to be worried?

lets say your Favorite job is WAR, out of nowhere they said "To provide Balance, We're looking into ways to adjust Ukko's Fury, Raging rush, and WAR job Abilities" Would you be like "Fuck yeah! WAR BUFF!" or would you be more like "Oh, This doesn't sound good..."

Its typical for people to be a little worried, as long as they don't go around waving "ITS THE FU*KING WARPOCALYPSE, SELL YOUR RELIC WAR ACCOUNTS, TOSS YOUR UKONVASARAS!!! THE END IS HERE"

Theres a difference between hysteria-panic and "Worry". I'm in the "Worry" stage.

Well, it's not unwarranted to ask for clarity, certainly. But I just don't know. I'd honestly lose a bit of respect for SE if this is a global adjustment and they can't be half-assed enough to make that perfectly clear. And yea, I know WHY this would be bad if it is a global-adjustment, and the worry is merited there certainly.. But at the moment I'm relying on the notes for what they say - not what they don't say.

[Karbuncle]

Well, it's not unwarranted to ask for clarity, certainly. But I just don't know. I'd honestly lose a bit of respect for SE if this is a global adjustment and they can't be half-assed enough to make that perfectly clear. And yea, I know WHY this would be bad if it is a global-adjustment, and the worry is merited there certainly.. But at the moment I'm relying on the notes for what they say - not what they don't say.

'tis human nature to worry about the unknown though.

Again, So long as you don't act wildly on it, theres nothing wrong with it.

[Krisan]

'tis human nature to worry about the unknown though.

Again, So long as you don't act wildly on it, theres nothing wrong with it.

Aye, and I hope for everyones sake it doesn't turn out to be as bad as some fear.

[Andylynn]

I think it's way too early to start panic/worry. Even if it is something terrible, we've seen the rise and fall of DDs, rng, ridill war, sam, maybe it's time for a new queen of the playground in se's book?

[Eeek]

Well, it's not unwarranted to ask for clarity, certainly. But I just don't know. I'd honestly lose a bit of respect for SE if this is a global adjustment and they can't be half-assed enough to make that perfectly clear. And yea, I know WHY this would be bad if it is a global-adjustment, and the worry is merited there certainly.. But at the moment I'm relying on the notes for what they say - not what they don't say.

SE did pull a fast one on the players two years ago. In the April 2009 update, which has since been scrubbed clean of any reference to the adjustment on the official site's archive of update notes*, SE adjusted magic resistance for all mobs. It was nothing more than a little one-line comment, but it had a drastically negative effect on mages. Does anyone else remember the fun caused by the drastically increased rate of half (and full) resists when players cast spells that corresponded to a mob's elemental strengths. I did not run a search through BG's old threads, but I did find an old post on the FFXIAH forums that adequately outlined the nerf: Link to relevant post on the magic resistance nerf.

I know this thread reeked of QQ and over-reaction when I wrote it, but when I saw that one seemly-innocent line about and adjustment to VIT and Critical Hits, my spidey senses started tingling. I really, really hope that I'm completely wrong and that I'm overreacting because I'm misreading SE's intent, but something in the back of mind tells me that I'm right.

I'm even more worried since a Community Rep still has not posted anything in this thread to allay anyone's fears. Maybe it's not their fault. Maybe the Dev Team simply failed to respond to a clarification request from the Community Team.

This time, I'm not so optimistic. I feel as if the Dev Team is preparing to drop a big, smelly nerf all over jobs like THF, DNC, NIN, BLU, and so on, but they don't want to acknowledge the nerf just yet. Maybe the Dev Team simply wants to push back any negative, wide-scale player reaction until after the update when the nerf's in place.

*Note: I was incorrect on this point. The update notes did not specifically mention any adjustments to player/mob magic resistance. The magic resistance nerf was not announced, and after a few weeks, SE claimed the nerf as a 'mistake' and undid the 4/9/2009 update's changes to magic resistance.

[Krisan]

*snip*

Very interesting.. I wasn't playing two years ago, I had a hiatus from XI that lasted a few years sometime around then, so I didn't know about this.. But that's very interesting.

[Eeek]

Very interesting.. I wasn't playing two years ago, I had a hiatus from XI that lasted a few years sometime around then, so I didn't know about this.. But that's very interesting.

To be fair, it looks like I was wrong in regards to the scrubbed Update Notes for that update. I just found the 4/9/2009 Update thread on BG, and unless I missed something, I saw no mention in the update notes of an adjustment to magic resistance. It appears that the adjustment to magic resistance was a ninja nerf and not explicitly stated.

In addition to that FFXIAH thread, I did find the 11-page BG thread discussing that magic nerf: {Thread} Elegy nerf or HNM buff.

Back then, my only mage was BRD (since retired), and I still remember that nerf very well.

Since then, I've always been leery of these seemingly small tweaks.

[Damane]

It will be a nerf what else. Yaaie for nerfing my DNC!

[Karbuncle]

If it makes anyone feel better, the JP Forums are about the same in responses.

"Does this effect player and beast a like?"

"If this is a nerf..."

"This is it? What about Scholar? Beastmaster? Paladin?" (JP Update notes (i'm assuming ours too) list this as "Adjustments and Additions, Part 1) as one of the JP said

"Part 1.... I had to say it" in response to the person complaining about no SCH/BST/PLD update.