[dev1010] Job Adjustments - VIT Adjustment and THF

[Dale]

I like the change. Vitality needs to do a little more than it does, and making it decrease damage from criticals sounds like a good way to go. They need to do that or make it add to a character's HP. Something.

Now as far as the "damage dealers" complaining about this, i have little sympathy. It's not like the damage you can put out right now with atmas isn't insane, so having your crit damage nerfed some isn't going to hurt things. As far as theif in particular, you shoudn't be doing huge damage. You are a theif. Your speciality is collecting loot. The facts are you can do nice damage, have crazy evasion and make an exceptional tank against many bosses - I really don't see a significant problem here.

[Mirage]

I like the change. Vitality needs to do a little more than it does, and making it decrease damage from criticals sounds like a good way to go. They need to do that or make it add to a character's HP. Something.

Now as far as the "damage dealers" complaining about this, i have little sympathy. It's not like the damage you can put out right now with atmas isn't insane, so having your crit damage nerfed some isn't going to hurt things. As far as theif in particular, you shoudn't be doing huge damage. You are a theif. Your speciality is collecting loot. The facts are you can do nice damage, have crazy evasion and make an exceptional tank against many bosses - I really don't see a significant problem here.

You're a thief, land TH and get the fuck off the mob, you're feeding it TP! Now you can have fun looking at the real jobs in the game doing their job. Good thief.

[Andylynn]

I think it's way too early to start panic/worry. Even if it is something terrible, we've seen the rise and fall of DDs, rng, ridill war, sam, maybe it's time for a new queen of the playground in se's book?

[Damane]

It will be a nerf what else. Yaaie for nerfing my DNC!

[Karbuncle]

If it makes anyone feel better, the JP Forums are about the same in responses.

"Does this effect player and beast a like?"

"If this is a nerf..."

"This is it? What about Scholar? Beastmaster? Paladin?" (JP Update notes (i'm assuming ours too) list this as "Adjustments and Additions, Part 1) as one of the JP said

"Part 1.... I had to say it" in response to the person complaining about no SCH/BST/PLD update.

[Eeek]

If it makes anyone feel better, the JP Forums are about the same in responses.

"Does this effect player and beast a like?"

"If this is a nerf..."

"This is it? What about Scholar? Beastmaster? Paladin?" (JP Update notes (i'm assuming ours too) list this as "Adjustments and Additions, Part 1) as one of the JP said

"Part 1.... I had to say it" in response to the person complaining about no SCH/BST/PLD update.

Actually, that does make me feel better. Thanks.

[Miera]

Oh noes, my Stringing Pummel damage D:

[Swords]

I can't say I'd be suprised if SE pulled the worst case scenario on us, but I can't say that they would either since new management took over the development team. Despite the general pessimism we've had with SE in the past the new team seems to be doing a good job thus far when it comes to adjusting the jobs and incorporating balance. It's still a bit early to tell though.

For example RNG has long needed a buff in damage, an extra arrow on barrage and a job trait that increases ranged crit dmg are good buffs but it's probably nothing that would overpower them, and even if it did I think everyone would agree it would not be to the same degree MNKs, NIN, DNC, and THF's have gotten since the level raise. If such a thing did happen, they would probably just scale back the job trait or accuracy on barrage a bit.

[Karbuncle]

What did THF Get since the Level raise?

Despoil? Worthless
Conspirator? Equally Worthless
Dual Wield 1 (2?)? Worthless. (Kinda. Has Situations if Dual wield II)
Critical hit Damage +(5%?) Job Trait? Decent. But so did half of the other jobs in the game.

Everything THF Got since 75 has sucked and blown, outside of an upgrade to Treasure Hunter. The only reason THF is good right now is because of Abyssea, RR, GH, and Apoc. Outside of Abyssea They're still probably one of the lower forms of DDs (Not the lowest for sure we have power).

While I can't really fully complain as THF will always have a spot in a party (Treasure Hunter), But yah, They hadn't gotten a lot.

But again, If i don't say it I'm sure I'll regret it, I'm going to wait until the update to truly decide if i wanna /wrists or not >.>

[Miera]

But again, If i don't say it I'm sure I'll regret it, I'm going to wait until the update to truly decide if i wanna /wrists or not >.>

Just try not to bleed all over my new rug. :P