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    Player Eeek's Avatar
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    [dev1010] Job Adjustments - VIT Adjustment and THF

    I created this thread to address an adjustment listed in the Job Adjustments notice.

    "VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits."

    Before I, and other THFs wise to the implication of this adjustment, start to over-react, I do have a question for the Community Team and Dev Team:

    Will this upcoming adjustment apply only to players who take critical hit damage, or worse, will this adjustment affect the critical hit damage taken players and mobs?

    I ask this mainly because I, and many others, enjoy playing THF, and this upcoming adjustment to VIT could have quite the detrimental effect on THF's ability to deal damage. THF has always been one of the weaker melee jobs, and this adjustment to VIT does us no favors.

    In fact, the upcoming adjustment to THF serves to weaken the job. Aside from enmity control and Treasure Hunter, a THFs approach to dealing damage relies upon dealing critical hits. This adjustment is a direct nerf to the damage-dealing capacity of two to THFs trademark Job Abilities: Sneak Attack and Trick Attack.

    The adjustment's damage to THF goes beyond just Sneak Attack and Trick Attack. THFs need to use Sneak Attack and/or Trick Attack in conjunction with several of our weaponskills in order for them to deal reasonable damage. These weaponskills include Shark Bite, Mandalic Stab, Mercy Stroke, and Rudra's Storm (among others). Yes, THF's relic, mythic, and empyrean weaponskills will all be weakened by this update.

    I guess the release of Abyssea and its Atmas were too good to be true. Atma combinations such as Razed Ruins, Gnarled Horn, and Apocalypse 'fixed' THF. We finally could contribute reasonable damage to normal mobs and NMs, and our friends finally allowed us to actually fight said mobs.

    Oh well. it was fun while it lasted.

    Oh, I have one final question for the Development Team. I have already acquired Thief's Knife, Assassin's Armlets, and Raider's Poulaines +2 for my THF. Should I, and all other THFs, even bother to gear our beloved THF beyond these three items?

    Because it sure doesn't seem so.
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    nah u can toss those and lvl corsair for bounty shot at 1 shot / min well u can see a line up of corsairs around a mob now :s

    thief are really gonna become extinct again ... back to our solo jobs
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    I would just wait until we get an official explaination as to what they mean before jumping to conclusions. Might save some unnecessary heartache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andylynn View Post
    I would just wait until we get an official explaination as to what they mean before jumping to conclusions. Might save some unnecessary heartache.
    True, but I guess I'm in the mood to jump out in front of the QQ brigade on this one.

    Adjustments like this upcoming one to VIT generally tend to affect mobs and players across the board, so I'm hoping for some confirmation on whether or not this will be the case.
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    Player Andylynn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eeek View Post
    True, but I guess I'm in the mood to jump out in front of the QQ brigade on this one.

    Adjustments like this upcoming one to VIT generally tend to affect mobs and players across the board, so I'm hoping for some confirmation on whether or not this will be the case.
    Remember how last update, they made AGI affect subtle blow, maybe itll reduce dmg taken from crits on players?
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    I'm dreading what it's going to do to Blade: Hi dmg and NIN's overall, NIN's damage is mainly from non-stop Crit hits with RR/GH/Apoc atmas...if VIT lowers our dmg we'll start sucking and losing the ability to hold hate again.
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    Player Andylynn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearforever View Post
    I'm dreading what it's going to do to Blade: Hi dmg and NIN's overall, NIN's damage is mainly from non-stop Crit hits with RR/GH/Apoc atmas...if VIT lowers our dmg we'll start sucking and losing the ability to hold hate again.
    Like I said, calm down, and wait for more clarification. As for HI I don't think it'll hurt it much, it already does above and beyond most ws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andylynn View Post
    Remember how last update, they made AGI affect subtle blow, maybe itll reduce dmg taken from crits on players?
    Half certain that works on both sides
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    I hope theres more job adjustments to come, if not this isn't many... where's the love for RDM, PLD & SCH having Cure V?
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    Remember how last update, they made AGI affect subtle blow, maybe itll reduce dmg taken from crits on players?
    Battle system is used by mobs and players alike usually, if they change something for players the mobs get it too. Hence why there is a pretty good chance this will be a crit nerf.
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    Last edited by Runespider; 04-22-2011 at 11:13 PM.

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