grips an "best" tp or ws sets as of april30 before may update

[vedder]

hello just random question(s) about gear for tp an ws and where drk is headed as type of gear to perform best at dding

a) grip-- id like to imagine that with store tp build for xhit setup, im no math wiz so hoping some one posts a few xhit builds, that rose is the choice here, but where do the following grips come into play (i myself use pole as i was quit during campaigns hayday so ill probably work on it in the future)
-i) pole
-ii) rose
-iii) uthers
-iv) sword
-v) brave

b) ammo- i) fire bomblet
ii) bomb core
ii) white tathlum
c) {torcleaver ws} waist-snow belt? anguiness belt? warwolf? beir?

d) {torcleaver ws}neck- imagine id use snow here but if there is better alt by all means mention it

now with drk getting ja haste as a 3/4:10 upgrade, and riding emp AM would you still use an alternative hit set up vs what i have listed below to promote more dmg? an if so does it really surpass it overall keeping in mind any sacrifices from dropping hits/ODD aftermath/(lol)set bonus? plz post the gear and any other notes you feel are important

TP SET
caladbolg/pole/x/bomblet
bale+2/bale/bale/brutal
bale+2/bale+2/raja/keen(working on wotg soon for the excelsis)
atheling/goading/blitzer(7acc/3haste working on homam)/aces
WS SET (currently)
caladbolg/pole/x/bomblet(/core/bibiki shell?)
viking(working on twilight)/snow/brutal/bale (moonshade/tp bonus good call?)
ares/bale+2(working on heafoc)/raja(terrasoul?)/keen(raja/terrasoul?)
atheling/lolswd+1(i know i know)/bale+2/bale+2

im just really apprehensive about macroing in vit over str in a ws and hate major trade offs that arent justified with proof that say (example) using aurum body an such such an losing bale body or haste etc would outperform

[Dart]

I take it you have updated ffxi calc? Fiddle around with that but a few suggestions:

also disclaimer. I am 37 lanterns from my own caladbolg so this is all from my friend who has one already (and the guy I ask caladbolg questions too).

6 hit is too difficult to maintain (you cannot maintain capped haste, and you have to ws in some really funky stuff) so just go for a 7 hit with capped haste and maximize your ws set.

I didn't see you list it but hoard ring for tp set. (+4 more store tp)

ace's hose for your legs so you can maintain capped haste (gives 4% drops off blood whatever tonberry nm in aby-kon). (yes -10 acc, but with as much acc+ as drk pushes via gear it isn't an issue)

yes yes yes to rose strap and white tath.

tactical mantle for tp set (antlion is a bitch and requires some help but very doable).

To my knowledge elemental neck/waist are best for all ws sets. You would need something equal to +20 to your stats to compare. This is according to the math person that I bring all my questions too.

he also swears by twilight helm/body for torcleaver due to vit mods. (sidenote: I'm unsure about twlilight body due to the +30 attack grim gives. If you don't think that you're pushing attack cap then I'd go with grim, its a judgement call)

Honestly abyssea is completely different for torcleaver than outside. inside with your usual atma combo you're basically at fstr cap so thats when the vit mod can play a large roll. He says to gear for that.

Outside use stuff like heafoc because your str isn't no where near cap. Jar mentioned I believe str/vit/attack+ mitts that drop from gold chests (I don't remember where, wiki it if you want), for inside since its really hard to find vit+ gear for drk on the hand slot.

Thats all that I can think of for now, if I remember something I'll edit.

[Jar]

hello just random question(s) about gear for tp an ws and where drk is headed as type of gear to perform best at dding

a) grip-- id like to imagine that with store tp build for xhit setup, im no math wiz so hoping some one posts a few xhit builds, that rose is the choice here, but where do the following grips come into play (i myself use pole as i was quit during campaigns hayday so ill probably work on it in the future)
-i) pole
-ii) rose
-iii) uthers
-iv) sword
-v) brave

b) ammo- i) fire bomblet
ii) bomb core
ii) white tathlum
c) {torcleaver ws} waist-snow belt? anguiness belt? warwolf? beir?

d) {torcleaver ws}neck- imagine id use snow here but if there is better alt by all means mention it

now with drk getting ja haste as a 3/4:10 upgrade, and riding emp AM would you still use an alternative hit set up vs what i have listed below to promote more dmg? an if so does it really surpass it overall keeping in mind any sacrifices from dropping hits/ODD aftermath/(lol)set bonus? plz post the gear and any other notes you feel are important

TP SET
caladbolg/pole/x/bomblet
bale+2/bale/bale/brutal
bale+2/bale+2/raja/keen(working on wotg soon for the excelsis)
atheling/goading/blitzer(7acc/3haste working on homam)/aces
WS SET (currently)
caladbolg/pole/x/bomblet(/core/bibiki shell?)
viking(working on twilight)/snow/brutal/bale (moonshade/tp bonus good call?)
ares/bale+2(working on heafoc)/raja(terrasoul?)/keen(raja/terrasoul?)
atheling/lolswd+1(i know i know)/bale+2/bale+2

im just really apprehensive about macroing in vit over str in a ws and hate major trade offs that arent justified with proof that say (example) using aurum body an such such an losing bale body or haste etc would outperform

http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Caitsith/Jar#item-sets

That has my item sets for what i use

Pole almost always wins unless you can get STP to

A: Keep 7hit with Sword strap
B: get a 6hit with rose Strap

Snow belt and gorget are the best for the slots to infinity

i use an xbow and acid bolts when i can but other wise its all Bomblet

The big thing with torcleaver is capping attack so attack gear all the way and keep STR and VIT where you can

[Dart]

Yea I'm looking at things from a scythe perspective and building a 5 hit.

agreed with jar, as I said 6 hit is doable and looking over the numbers/gear myself. You can actually maintain capped haste with it, But yea your torcleaver build would be FUNKYYYYY lol

You would have to ws in tactical mantle, hoard ring and a few other things. (rose strap, white tathlum, augmented attillas with store tp/str) to name a few lmao.

[vedder]

ya know, i totally forgot about calc when i got new pc <_< now i feel dumb

edited in: dart is twilight body really gonna beat ares ? 12str 12vit 24 attack vs 15str 15vit an 25acc??

edited in 2nd: k played with ffxi calc slapped tact rose tath an hoard in and wasnt enough to drop a hit with capped haste sadly

[Jar]

ya know, i totally forgot about calc when i got new pc <_< now i feel dumb

edited in: dart is twilight body really gonna beat ares ? 12str 12vit 24 attack vs 15str 15vit an 25acc??

edited in 2nd: k played with ffxi calc slapped tact rose tath an hoard in and wasnt enough to drop a hit with capped haste sadly

Twilight is only better with capped PDIF all other times Aers's wins

But im goin for Shadow breastplate hoping augments pull through next update.

[Dart]

to phrase what jar said a bit differently.

its +3 str, +3 vit +25 acc vs -3 str -3 vit +24 attack

Depends if you're capped on attack (outside mostly if you have a cor and chaos roll then I'd use twilight, otherwise ares)

inside i'm not so sure due to cruor buffs/what atma you're using.

[vedder]

if it helps any id be using apoc/rr/A&O favourite combo atm for just plunking on

been trying to figure out some gear combos all day to drop a hit on the build but its really not looking promising atm ._.

[Jar]

if it helps any id be using apoc/rr/A&O favourite combo atm for just plunking on

been trying to figure out some gear combos all day to drop a hit on the build but its really not looking promising atm ._.

Plaugbringer/RR/Apoc and you can 6hit easy

[vedder]

true but i like the higher triple attack/attack though i did purposely get pb just goin on what you've stated on these forums, i agree completely about pb vs vv the str is wasted essentially an the 20 stp is nice, is it confirmed about theDA traits being = ?