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Thread: New Adjustments

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    Player Kagato's Avatar
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    To be perfectly honest, I'd rather have the recast time be lower so I can cap my JA haste more often rather than do it every 2 minutes, but there is sense in what you say.

    Tell you what. Let's wait and see how much of an effect this has on Souleater first. If it's a great deal, then I think we should consider what you say. If not, then perhaps Tier 1 merits should continue to be stacked on Last Resort.

    Also, if DRK/WAR proves to become better than /SAM, then we can stack Berserk and not have to worry as much about Last Resort effect and keep the recast time lower for Last Resort AND Souleater.

    I'm going to be testing all of these ideas.
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    Keeping your timers close together is always for the best.
    #1 it lets u benefit from the -50 % enmity for this period of spiked damage. (u might think its a drop in the bucket but it definately makes a difference. ive seen my brother use an Enmity down gear macro set to trigger the abilities last resort and souleater to reduce thier hate draw from activation and then combo it with muted soul for a further reduced enmity and its definately a noticable difference.)

    #2 human error. If u have a 6 min soul eater timer and a 4:10 last resort timer. its a lot easier to get caught not using ur ability when its up. By the end of a party u have lost the 50 seconds u save on merits just by having cumbersome timers.
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    You have a point about timers being close together. If anything that makes me want to remove Last Resort effect and dump it all into Souleater Recast.

    I think I'll try that.
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    Drk/War is gonna be nice sub, extra JA, Berserk, DA, Warcry, Aggressor. it will be interesting to test this out after update excited.
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    Indeed Muted soul was very underrated i have 5/5 on it cause having the ability to half my enmity when i'm consuming my hp is pretty damn nice it did kinda screw with the DRKs that like to tank tho.

    As for merits after update u need to merit Last resort recast regardless.

    It's basically reducing ya down time from 120sec to 70sec which is a no brainer.
    Either way to put it basically by not meriting u will be losing 50 sec if 25% haste.

    As for the bs of Last Resort lining up with Souleater
    In the rare case where u use Last resort and Souleater at the same time and use souleater for the entire min;
    Presumming ur spamming last resort every 4:10 and ur souleater is on a 5 min recast.
    SE Use 1 (LR used first time) Remain time on LR 180 sec
    SE Use 2 (LR use 50 secs ago) Remaining time on LR 130 sec (5mins passed)
    SE Use 3 (LR used 100 secs ago) Remaining time on LR 80 sec (10 mins passed)
    so u get 3 full uses and when u get to the 15 mins and SE is ready just wait 30 secs

    So basically u need to wait 30 secs on Souleater every 15 mins in the unlikly case u spam it.
    This is nothing for having LR and aka having 25% haste up 16% more often.

    As for LR effect vs SE recast if u spam SE then SE recast thats all there is too it.

    Summary LR Recast 5/5 then SE recast or LR effect depending on playstyle.

    I used to play DRK/WAR in Einherjar (i did the most dmg with that combination there) really good over since it allows you to cap out WS with berserk and give a boost to WS dmg with double attack.

    Also DRK/WAR with Torcleaver is gonna be insane considering u should be able to capp out attack with LR+Berserk only problem is hate which for me is cool considering it used to be getting crappy Job traits like tactical parry.
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 04-23-2011 at 09:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaenRyong View Post
    I LOVE YOU SE

    (assuming you don't nerf Desperate Blows while you're here)
    SHADUP U lol
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    I'm still optimistic for an upgrade to our ws dmg (crit ws or a new ws that can compete at 99). That + this would make me a very happy drk.

    Still a major step in the right direction (and yes i'm going to enjoy the fact that I was one of the few who first mentioned this upgrade!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unctgtg View Post
    Duration of Last Resort will now last 3 minutes and a new JA that reduces the Amount of HP during Souleater at 45.

    What do you think, its a start.
    With fully merited Last Resort outside haste and capped gear haste DRK will hit the 80% hard cap. Basically they will have the equivalent of three minute Hundred Fists with a DMG 131 weapon on a 4:10 timer.

    I won't be expecting a crit hit WS after this because that would completely break the game now.
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    inb4 /sch
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    i'll allow it~
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