Dec. 10 Update Alliance Experience Adjustment

[Pixela]

... no. This is bad. It's a fix intended to disrupt mercenary alliances, which it might, but it's going to do nothing about mercenaries. You'll just see four times as many bots pulling mobs to support the same number of customers, if they don't just disregard the penalty and go longer instead. It's the solution you get from someone who is only half listening to your concern, catches one word, and says "ah, yes yes, alliances, harumph. We'll see those are dealt with right away, quite right."

No, because it will become non-profitable to run that many bots.

RMT only want to make money, if this is no longer profitable they will find other ways to make it.

[Uriah]

No, because it will become non-profitable to run that many bots.

RMT only want to make money, if this is no longer profitable they will find other ways to make it.

Yeah, no kiddo, this is far from the mark. To make a bot not profitable is essentially impossible, short of banning the account on day one. No 3 day, no "investigation", instant action.

[Clou777]

No, because it will become non-profitable to run that many bots.

RMT only want to make money, if this is no longer profitable they will find other ways to make it.

Well there are others games out there i'm sure they could ruin.

[Pixela]

Was there more to that post or were you just saying "nuhuh!"

RMT pay subs for the bots, if they are not making enough gil to warrant that payment they will do something else.

The only time the answer is just more bots is on f2p games.

[Zenion]

I really dont see how this affects the avg player?? When was the last time you EVER exp'd with more than 6 players? Abyssea exp parties? We are way past that now.

Well why would anyone exp with more than six players? There's an exp penalty for that! I've heard rumors that job point alliances used to be a thing when gear was lighter and it was harder to chew through apex mobs low-man.

It would be kind of nice to shift back to a meta that runs more on getting a huge swarm of players together to just chew through monsters at top speed, rather than running an exp party on the work of one to three characters. Make FFXI feel more like the big team-based game it keeps trying to be. If solo is just going to be the default way to do everything, it's time to shift to a single-player version and mothball the servers.

Was there more to that post or were you just saying "nuhuh!"

RMT pay subs for the bots, if they are not making enough gil to warrant that payment they will do something else.

The only time the answer is just more bots is on f2p games.

... Galka armies in South Gustaberg. RMT seem to have no problem with lining up a whole bunch of accounts to do their farming. Granted, it takes more resources to get a grind capable character up and running, but once they pass that hurdle, they only have to start over if they get busted specifically for botting. Not sure how hard it is to prove that one, but I hear a lot more grumbling about people reporting bots and nothing happening than cheering about a reported bot getting banned.

[Immortal]

I really dont see how this affects the avg player?? When was the last time you EVER exp'd with more than 6 players? Abyssea exp parties? We are way past that now.

[Zehira]

I really dont see how this affects the avg player?? When was the last time you EVER exp'd with more than 6 players? Abyssea exp parties? We are way past that now.

I had a feeling... Third party developers put us under control. lol

[Pixela]

I really dont see how this affects the avg player?? When was the last time you EVER exp'd with more than 6 players? Abyssea exp parties? We are way past that now.

A lot of regular players sell XP, they are mad.

[Pixela]

Here is the problem with people who make money from this game, they lack common sense (and I'm not talking about the chiinese groups, I'm talking about the NA/EU players that run bots).

They will always take anything to 10, which sets up a position where the developers have to deal with it and then nerf it.

If these people (and it's often one person running 3-4 bot groups on multiple computers) had just left some space for legit players at the start of zones, the developers would of left you alone. You traded a short term increase in profits for the total destruction of your business long term.

Most players and the developers were fine with XP sellers, however you took every camp and so instigated mass reports and that lead to this.

[Uriah]

You have to ask yourself; why would they.

Get money, nothing else matters. That's the only truth in life. (the way it is right now) It's the prisoner's dilema. it would be better to not, except if you don't someone else will, and you lost out. So obviously it's the best TO maximize exploitation while it's available, not the other way around.