The STF does nothing and I'm going to post every report I file as proof.

[Alhanelem]

I know, every single sam/geo/bst/nin/thf in doh/woh/sih/moh ARE botting, and I know the thousand other bots that I know of are botting.

I'd like to know how you *know* this. I myself have spent time grinding with real live people playing such jobs in those areas. So your use of "all" is disingenuous. I'm not trying to suggest there's no botters there, but you can't say they all are because I can prove that there are one or more that aren't.

Imagine coming to this thread and acting like a jerk to someone reporting cheaters.

What's the point? They're doing a public service.

I think a better question is what's the point in reporting the same person 1000 times. Even a support staff person (The ones that occasionaly reply to the support threads) has to have glanced at one of these threads casually at some point. If they *have* ever looked at this or the reports, they have to have conducted even the most basic analysis of the situation and come to some sort of conclusion (i.e. that whatever they're doing isn't egregious enough to support a ban, or they did ban the guy way back and just don't feel like playing whack-a-mole)

I'm not going to say putting in reports is bad, because it isn't, but I think he'd be doing a better service just reporting each unique botter they discover instead of reporting the same one til the cows come h ome. It should have been obvious that whatever the reason, having seen the reports or not, that SE made up its mind about this abyss sahagin guy a long time ago. If he really wants to do a public service, report more people in more places. I honestly think it would actually do a better job of proving the point he's trying to make.

[Uriah]

Except, it doesn't. The point I'm making is reporting is pointless. I can report the same bot 400 times before they finally disappear.

Reporting a different bot every day would make a different point, one that is (also) pointless, but not the point I care about.

Everyone already knows there are entirely too many bots. Everyone knows this. Some are in denial about it, but it is fact. Everyone also knows those bots are keeping the sub count high enough to stay alive. Square allows this. Again. Everyone knows this. Some are in denial.

What they seem to not know is that the rules no longer apply. If you don't clip you can do anything you want with no repercussions.

[Alhanelem]

I mean if that's your only point I'd say you made it several hundred posts ago. Why bother continuing? It's not like any of us really doesn't know this at this point. I don't think anyone here is pretending that SE isn't reluctant to ban bots because they generate too much income to ignore. We know it, they know it, the bots know it. Are you expecting SE to publicly say "we don't care about bots because we get money?" That will never happen, because that would be suicidal for the game.

[Uriah]

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I said I would, and I'm going to. That's the beginning and the end.

But yes, if Matsui himself admits what we already know, I'll be done. Until then, or the servers close. every. single. day. Period.
Unless power or net goes out and I have to double/triple up days to make up for a missed one.

Edit; I also except bribes, but I am very expensive.

[Alhanelem]

I said I would, and I'm going to. That's the beginning and the end.

But yes, if Matsui himself admits what we already know, I'll be done. Until then, or the servers close. every. single. day. Period.
Unless power or net goes out and I have to double/triple up days to make up for a missed one.

All I'm saying is I like that outcome less than I like the status quo. I still want to play the game, thus I don't want to see them do anything that would actively destroy it.

None of your desired outcomes will ever happen. Not in 1000 posts, not in 100,000.

[Uriah]

We're gonna find out.

[Alhanelem]

We're gonna find out.

I'm not so sure we will. lol

[Sp1cyryan]

I'm not so sure we will. lol

They are trapped in the spiral of their own making. A paradoxical world of defiance and denial. Where the more they report a single individual over and over. The less reason there is to, due to the ever increasing evidence of futility in their actions. Yet they—in what could even be ascribed to fanaticism if not an outright cry for professional help—refuse to change their own self-determined course.

TL;DR: Each report unanswered creates more evidence it will be anything but ignored. To continue ignoring being ignored and expect "we will find out" is pure insanity.

[Alhanelem]

They are trapped in the spiral of their own making. A paradoxical world of defiance and denial. Where the more they report a single individual over and over. The less reason there is to, due to the ever increasing evidence of futility in their actions. Yet they—in what could even be ascribed to fanaticism if not an outright cry for professional help—refuse to change their own self-determined course.

TL;DR: Each report unanswered creates more evidence it will be anything but ignored. To continue ignoring being ignored and expect "we will find out" is pure insanity.

Well that's the point I was trying to make. If these reports were ever seen by anyone, and it would be hard for even an SE employee casually passing by not to at least see this thread (And I know for a fact it has been, particularly considering the past thread deletions and merges), then clearly, they've already come to a conclusion about this character. Reporting a variety of users, particularly those cheating in more ways than simply automating their play, and still seeing nothing would be a far better indicator of their stance.

And I say this out of a shared desire to see the game cleaned up.

[Uriah]

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