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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I'm just saying there's no reason or motivation for them to hide a post from themselves, which is what you said. They're supposed to be professional enough to be above grudges and petty squabbles.
    However, they aren't, and they have intentionally allowed this thread and it's main poster to continue. Just like the entirely different GM team has allowed botting to continue as a rampant plague upon Vana'diel. I say this as someone who wants both cleaned up.

    Since they have deliberately decided to neglect any responsibility towards such individuals. They may as well hide this thread. As the OP is no less of a problem than what they are reporting.
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    However, they aren't, and they have intentionally allowed this thread and it's main poster to continue. Just like the entirely different GM team has allowed botting to continue as a rampant plague upon Vana'diel. I say this as someone who wants both cleaned up.
    I mean, this isn't SE/the moderators putting him on their ignore list. This is them dealing with this situation by containing these posts to one thread (when he had made several, and has had at least one account banned).

    Sometimes, it is in fact better to just let someone live in their own little corner instead of dealing with an unnecessairly angry person who's going to keep making accounts (I wouldn't put it past him to buy more copies of the game to do so)

    I have been a mod on various forums over the years, and there is sometimes that one user who simply can not be shut down and it's easier to just shadowban them or shove their posts into a corner and let them do their thing where it bothers as few people as possible.

    Honestly there are ways to do that in VB, I'm a little surrpised they didn't go that route. If it wasn't for us posting here, he could easily have been shadowbanned and not know it.
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    There a certain extension for Chrome or Firefox with the right script to hide all threads and posts created by users. It's a very powerful feature and no I am not ignoring Alhanelem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I mean, this isn't SE/the moderators putting him on their ignore list. This is them dealing with this situation by containing these posts to one thread (when he had made several, and has had at least one account banned).

    Sometimes, it is in fact better to just let someone live in their own little corner instead of dealing with an unnecessairly angry person who's going to keep making accounts (I wouldn't put it past him to buy more copies of the game to do so)

    I have been a mod on various forums over the years, and there is sometimes that one user who simply can not be shut down and it's easier to just shadowban them or shove their posts into a corner and let them do their thing where it bothers as few people as possible.

    Honestly there are ways to do that in VB, I'm a little surrpised they didn't go that route. If it wasn't for us posting here, he could easily have been shadowbanned and not know it.
    There is no containment here since it spills over into other interactions with them on other boards. Let alone any notion of shadow banning. It is entirely naive and justifies inaction.

    Also being a mod and admin myself over the years. I don't understand this defeatist approach. It sends a message that anyone who puts up enough fuss will see the team fold. It's an unacceptable response. Especially since they would have to buy more copies of the game. Good, let them, that's great. It takes them far more effort than the moderator who is supposed to be doing the task they signed up for.

    With how little moderation is required here it is absolutely inexcusable. Frankly, it sends a message reinforcing that the entirety of staff from the STF to the moderators and so on are negligent. It tarnishes the image of the company and erodes trust from the community to the historic lows we see in community sentiment.
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    Also being a mod and admin myself over the years. I don't understand this defeatist approach.
    WHen banning the same troll over and over again doesn't deter them, nothing will. In a few cases its gotten to the point where dealing with them has taken meaningful time away from other matters. There are people, like Uriah, whom can not be shut down no matter

    On this forum it's m ore possible than most because forum accounts are tied to SE accounts. But I really would not put it past him to buy more copies of the game to keep playing his game. After all we already know he's had one account banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    WHen banning the same troll over and over again doesn't deter them, nothing will. In a few cases its gotten to the point where dealing with them has taken meaningful time away from other matters. There are people, like Uriah, whom can not be shut down no matter

    On this forum it's m ore possible than most because forum accounts are tied to SE accounts. But I really would not put it past him to buy more copies of the game to keep playing his game. After all we already know he's had one account banned.
    The second paragraph disproves the first of having any validity here.
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    Get uBlock Origin extension for Chrome or Firefox and use the filter line.

    forum.square-enix.com###thread_58360
    You can still visit this thread. It just won't be visible on the forum top.
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    The second paragraph disproves the first of having any validity here.
    You'd be surprised how far some people will go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You'd be surprised how far some people will go.
    I'm really not surprised. I just don't agree with the excuses though.
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