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    Player Tamoa's Avatar
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    But that's the thing though - you don't have to put up with sexual harrassment in this game, you can just add people to blacklist for whatever reason you like. And if you give people your phone number/real name/address over the internet and they end up stalking you - well that's your own fault. This isn't a workplace where your employer can get into trouble by allowing sexual harrassment to take place. This is a game we all play of our own free will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    But that's the thing though - you don't have to put up with sexual harrassment in this game, you can just add people to blacklist for whatever reason you like. And if you give people your phone number/real name/address over the internet and they end up stalking you - well that's your own fault. This isn't a workplace where your employer can get into trouble by allowing sexual harrassment to take place. This is a game we all play of our own free will.
    Aye I see your point, but B/Listing them doesn't stop them from harassing other people, it doesn't deter them from continuing, if it means SE might ban their precious account, then they might think twice. But I suspect people will do what they feel is appropriate, B/List or GM, the services are there, so of course SE already offers a solution. So obviously they don't need to offer a sex change to accommodate past that.

    On the legal side: arguably, people play the game for enjoyment, not to be harassed or face abuse, sure it's free will, using your employment example: you apply for a job out of free will, you accept it out of free will and you go to work out of free will, but what you're not there for is harassment, so the law has your back on that one, well it depends on your country I suppose. So, of course it depends entirely on the law of the country for anything, if they would consider SE liable if they (hypothetically speaking) refuse to act in order to protect its clients/end users from harassment/abuse/discrimination when using one of their services, then it would be a legal issue. I don't know the law of any country well enough to say for certain that it'd be the case and the Internet causes a lot of trouble when it comes to law, but you'd be surprised what people/businesses can be liable for, even in countries that claim to have free speech.
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    Next time an occurrence of it happens I can safely say I'll consult a GM. As dumb as it may be I never thought of that... I always figured GM's were there for in game issues and not things like this. I'm a bit slow when it comes to linking two and two together. In regards to friends, I'm going to speak up and say that they're behaving inappropriately and let them know I don't appreciate it. I appreciate the feedback though, most of you have made me realize that, durrr, I could call a GM.
    Also, just to clarify I know well the difference between flirting and harassment. I don't get mad about flirting, it's when guys tell me in detail about how they would fuck me, things like that are what make me mad because that's just inappropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiii View Post
    Next time an occurrence of it happens I can safely say I'll consult a GM. As dumb as it may be I never thought of that... I always figured GM's were there for in game issues and not things like this. I'm a bit slow when it comes to linking two and two together. In regards to friends, I'm going to speak up and say that they're behaving inappropriately and let them know I don't appreciate it. I appreciate the feedback though, most of you have made me realize that, durrr, I could call a GM.
    Also, just to clarify I know well the difference between flirting and harassment. I don't get mad about flirting, it's when guys tell me in detail about how they would fuck me, things like that are what make me mad because that's just inappropriate.
    Blacklisting would definitely help the issue as well, and may be the first response of a few GMs depending on the details of the situation. If the situation escalates and some person gets ahold of your real life information (Even if you're the one who gave it to them, though honestly that's just a bad idea), you can and should call the police if you feel there is legitimate harassment or a legitimate threat. The police aren't going to ignore you just because "It's a game". Cyberstalking is still stalking and they take it very seriously.
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    Well, who could blame them? Elvaan girls are highly bangable.

    Yeah. I'm a Elvaan > Mithra guy.
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    um, harassment is a violation of the ToS, time to start GM calls. Of course the hold times are ridiculous... but that is a complaint they can do something about. if it's in the LS or whatever, complain to the leader, if you are a quality people the leader will do something about it.
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    Tell them you're Chris Hansen and that they should take a seat.
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    Can't argue with that plan.
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    There is a limit to your Blacklist lol.
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    You've been trolled! You've been trolled you have probably been told, "don't reply to this guy, he is just getting a rise out of you," yes its true you respond and that's his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble. You've been trolled you've been trolled you should probably just fold when the only winning move is not to play! And yet you keep on trying mindlessly replying, you've been trolled, you've been trolled, have a nice day!

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    I'll give you some advice, "Grow a thicker skin." I never would let the things people say on a FFXI bother me at all.

    But anyway I do think they should just have paid race changes. I mean they already have paid server changes. So why not have this too. WoW does it but who cares game companies take ideas from eachother all the time.
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