[dev1009] New Trigger Conditions for Notorious Monsters (Questions regarding new HNM)

[Anewie]

Bump. Really would like to get an idea of what they have planned regarding notorious monsters in the future

[Natenn]

w/o competition aspects in the endgame i think the game will start to die out

[Dazusu]

I agree with what's posted in most of this thread. Can we get a definitive answer on whether or not the HNM community will be catered for in future updates? The last time a 'timed HNM' was added to the game was Dark Ixion and Sandworm.

While there are many who choose not to participate in this content, there are still those consumers that do. Informing us as to whether we'll get any new timed HNM in the future isn't asking much.

[ShadowHeart]

i agree the end game no competition / camps might be what drives the game into the ground now... hope they fix 14 first or their days are numbered with final fantasy

[Mittenz]

This interests me as well, I am someone who enjoys competition yet now there is very little I remember a couple interviews from a long time ago stating there was choices, that some liked to camp, that like a challenge and not to look cookie cutter.

"And if it’s too easy the world will be filled with the abjurations and everyone will have that and it won’t be something that has that mystic feel to it like, “I have it, look at me.” Rather, everyone is wearing it."

"Actually, we're not really worried about that now that we have Assault and Salvage and Einherjar. People have choices now, and while it may be hard to believe, there are people out there who like to camp these things for hours on end. Before people would have to camp whether they liked it or not. But now people have a choice; people that want to camp can also camp, but they can also go to Einherjar or such. We give people the choice to let them choose, even if they like to camp for five hours."

I wonder if they will ever bring back something they used to understand was something at least some people enjoyed. They used to offer choice for everyone Kings if you wanted to camp, ein if you were in a big LS but didn't want to camp, salvage if you were a low man group, where is the choice now? Seems all they want is casual stuff which has quickly lost a lot of peoples interest who were into the end game scene (and I dont just mean camping) my LS dropping from 16-18 down to barely a party sometimes due to people exiting the game because what they enjoyed doing was gone.

[Wenceslao]

hates sky farm farm farm for pops to fight an nm couple times a week ...
then zeni farming OMG no thanks i farmed a few K points for a few tier 1 pops for an item i wanted but never again pain in the butt no thanks.
lol now makes you wonder what pop items are really gonna be needed for dynamis now don't it hope u got lots of beastmen seals maybe LOL

Perhaps those Kindred and H. Kindred Crest stores, lol, anyway i don't want dynamis to be an open area. And regarding the main post, I think it's funnier to camp a NM, but as the time has passed many features of the game has changed and I want to believe this is for a good reason that SE is doing this (perhaps they are planning new NM with timed spawns on that zones with a higher lvl), anyway, more that disscusing i'd like to know why they are doing this and know as well if we will see more Timed Spawn NM....as everybody in this thread, lol

[Wenceslao]

This interests me as well, I am someone who enjoys competition yet now there is very little I remember a couple interviews from a long time ago stating there was choices, that some liked to camp, that like a challenge and not to look cookie cutter.

"And if it’s too easy the world will be filled with the abjurations and everyone will have that and it won’t be something that has that mystic feel to it like, “I have it, look at me.” Rather, everyone is wearing it."

"Actually, we're not really worried about that now that we have Assault and Salvage and Einherjar. People have choices now, and while it may be hard to believe, there are people out there who like to camp these things for hours on end. Before people would have to camp whether they liked it or not. But now people have a choice; people that want to camp can also camp, but they can also go to Einherjar or such. We give people the choice to let them choose, even if they like to camp for five hours."

I wonder if they will ever bring back something they used to understand was something at least some people enjoyed. They used to offer choice for everyone Kings if you wanted to camp, ein if you were in a big LS but didn't want to camp, salvage if you were a low man group, where is the choice now? Seems all they want is casual stuff which has quickly lost a lot of peoples interest who were into the end game scene (and I dont just mean camping) my LS dropping from 16-18 down to barely a party sometimes due to people exiting the game because what they enjoyed doing was gone.

The problem is: We are getting less choices, I remember the times when looking a player with a Relic Armor (a single piece or a full set) was like WTF!!1 look at him/her!, seeing someone with an Abjuration was even better, as well with assault, salvage and other armors, because we had choices, now we are lacking of them, with next update, players will be able to do Dynamis everyday, whenever they want, we will see players starting to farm these items to pop the NM (well at least we are outside abyssea, lol), and thus, getting lots of armors, materials, etc that used to be a reason of being proud... now scattered everywhere... T.T (i think that at least if it keeps people outside abyssea is less worse than I imagine, lol)

[Anewie]

Foxclon! I know you and the devs are lurkin! Come on, give us some idea of the balance/plans for the future regarding HNMs. No one wants the game to reolve around certain HNMs, but couldn't you just pull another odin/kings type thing? Give campers the long spawns and give the BCNMs to casual people? And will you be adding new lower NMs? Something fun for lowbie stuff would be cool.

[Wenceslao]

The interesting part of this is: "They are reading our posts and they are not giving us any clarifycations", lol and i doubt they'll do it

[Anewie]

bumppy bump bump bump devs