[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Flunklesnarkin]

Naw, it should be changed to something easier than Kings because the bulk of the people who hated Kings were unable to do them.

Protip: Attentive players can, and always have been able been able to outclaim bots.

Regardless of the obvious skill that is required to claim mobs in a video game ( I swore a blood oath to the hindu monks to never reveal their video game claiming secrets)

Its retarded to compete over hnm's or NM's in general.. yes thats an opinion.. and i think its the opinion of most people who play the game.

Most people play to kill NM's and have fun.. not stand around for hours waiting for something to show up.


I think you vastly overestimate the difficulty of hnm's.. sure maybe in 2004 or 2005 the vast majority of players wouldn't be able to kill ground kings.

To suggest that most people can't kill ground kings these days is retarded.

The only issue is actually getting claim.. and this update is helping everybody...

unless you happen to be that one person who was monopolizing the hnm so nobody else could claim ;o

[Henihhi]

Except people who made money off their KS's. I used majority of my KS back when Royale Ramble had a decent payout, so yeah not every is sitting on thousands of seals.

People always had an alternative to king gear. Majority of people wanted to cry about king gear, but at the same time were to lazy to do the alternative.

So you got something for your seals. That was your choice. Most of the complaints about this system were the same people complaining about abyssea, wanting xp outside abyssea, and saying hnms were too hard to claim. They got what they asked for. Just because someone blew all their seals making gil off R3 <yes i did the same lol> does not make this bad in anyway, just means they have to go out and get seals. You know, like put a half assed effort forth to go kill ep mobs.

[pheare]

also, this will be a great way to motivate people to start and/or finish their weapon trials. they can now kill their EP mobs while doing trial weapons and getting Kindred Seals for their kings.

[Greatguardian]

Regardless of the obvious skill that is required to claim mobs in a video game ( I swore a blood oath to the hindu monks to never reveal their video game claiming secrets)

Its retarded to compete over hnm's or NM's in general.. yes thats an opinion.. and i think its the opinion of most people who play the game.

Most people play to kill NM's and have fun.. not stand around for hours waiting for something to show up.


I think you vastly overestimate the difficulty of hnm's.. sure maybe in 2004 or 2005 the vast majority of players wouldn't be able to kill ground kings.

To suggest that most people can't kill ground kings these days is retarded.

The only issue is actually getting claim.. and this update is helping everybody...

unless you happen to be that one person who was monopolizing the hnm so nobody else could claim ;o

I don't overestimate the difficulty of HNMs. They're shit-easy. I simply take a jaded look at the playerbase and realize they'd probably be equipping their Turbans in their Feet slot if the game didn't prevent them from trying.

[Andylynn]

I really like the direction theyre headed, with the decrease in BB loot drops, the new trigger systems, and whatnot, its really a step in the right direction for ridding of these damn bandwagons, to let us play jobs freely again. One less pink nin, mnk, perle war, makes a happy kitty.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I don't overestimate the difficulty of HNMs. They're shit-easy. I simply take a jaded look at the playerbase and realize they'd probably be equipping their Turbans in their Feet slot if the game didn't prevent them from trying.

Yah screw the pansy hnm's in ffxi

they need something like kerafyrm the sleeper from everquest.... (he goes zone to zone and kills everybody and doesn't stop >:U)

[Cream_Soda]

Wtf @ this update. Did I just lv to 90 my mnk for nothing -.-. This update is going to drive the price up at camps because now the ls' have to use their KS to pop these nms.

FML. I just wanted to get my black belt and finish capping my h2h so I could be a good tank for my group.

Really, if they're going to go through w/ this, SE better give me my 3 days back that I spent on mnk. I could have been studying or something.

[Orson]

Yah screw the pansy hnm's in ffxi

they need something like kerafyrm the sleeper from everquest.... (he goes zone to zone and kills everybody and doesn't stop >:U)

I thought that the Sleeper had been killed. We basically had AV. Not only that but PW was so hard it actually made it into the news (albeit videogame news.)

[Henihhi]

And a lot of people have totally missed the fact that now you can kill the nm any time you want, instead of having to camp it at ungodly hours and praying for claim. Think the OP mentioned this also. So its win- win for all those people who have posted tons of complaints about hnm camping.

[Andylynn]

I thought that the Sleeper had been killed. We basically had AV. Not only that but PW was so hard it actually made it into the news (albeit videogame news.)

He was supposed to be unkillable, except one guild proved the servers wrong :P. He was a one time release, as an event to rampage the servers.

Wtf @ this update. Did I just lv to 90 my mnk for nothing -.-. This update is going to drive the price up at camps because now the ls' have to use their KS to pop these nms.

FML. I just wanted to get my black belt and finish capping my h2h so I could be a good tank for my group.

Really, if they're going to go through w/ this, SE better give me my 3 days back that I spent on mnk. I could have been studying or something.

3 days is nothing really >_>; personally, do we really need another bandwagon mnk lying around parties not pulling its weight? No offense to you, just saying it tends to happen.