[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Greatguardian]

3 days is nothing really >_>; personally, do we really need another bandwagon mnk lying around parties not pulling its weight? No offense to you, just saying it tends to happen.

He's kidding. CS has had Mnk, BB, and pretty top notch gear for ages.

[Tsuneo]

I keep hearing about these bandwagon jobs, but I have yet to experience one. I guess thats what happens when the quality of people you hang out with are the same as yourself.

[Greatguardian]

I keep hearing about these bandwagon jobs, but I have yet to experience one. I guess thats what happens when the quality of people you hang out with are the same as yourself.

idk man, Andylynn has like a Gungnir and shit on his mule. I was under the impression he was pretty pro.

[RAIST]

Fafnir : Wyrm Beard removed
Nidhogg : Drop rate of Wyrm Beard decreased
Behemoth : Behemoth Tongue removed
King Behemoth : Drop rate of Behemoth Tongue decreased
Adamantoise : Adamantoise Egg removed
Aspidochelone : Drop rate of Adamantoise Egg decreased

I really don't get why they had to take the drops from the NQ versions. Rates were already pretty low as they were. now you have to kill both, and they are taking away the 100% drop on the 2nd fight. Granted, we don't know what that reduced rate will be now, it could be high like 1/2 or 2/3 or something--if you don't get it on the first try, have to go back and start over and do all 3 fights again. If you still had a small chance of getting them from the NQ version it wouldn't be so bad--you would STILL have to do two fights to have a shot at getting it from the NQ (KSNM99 for pop item, then kill the NQ). Taking them away from the NQ ones I think is really unnecessary.

[Gotterdammerung]

Wtf @ this update. Did I just lv to 90 my mnk for nothing -.-. This update is going to drive the price up at camps because now the ls' have to use their KS to pop these nms.

FML. I just wanted to get my black belt and finish capping my h2h so I could be a good tank for my group.

Really, if they're going to go through w/ this, SE better give me my 3 days back that I spent on mnk. I could have been studying or something.

Sarcasm is really hard to pull off in text form. Well done sir.

[Andylynn]

I keep hearing about these bandwagon jobs, but I have yet to experience one. I guess thats what happens when the quality of people you hang out with are the same as yourself.

MNK, WAR, NIN; the one's you see commonly in the occasional exp party wearing low level equipment, and cruor gear sets.

idk man, Andylynn has like a Gungnir and shit on his mule. I was under the impression he was pretty pro

hurr i trollz, i thinkz i pro 2.

[Tsuneo]

What I'm saying is those people never affected me to begin with. I don't see how this will fix people having to deal with gimps though. There isn't a way to fix people choosing to play wrong.

[Octaviane]

I am a tad confused. Will BB items still be a possible drop in KS99's after the update? Or am I reading thet SE has now made it even more frustrating to get those BB items with a REDUCED drop rate from HQ Land Kings and NO drop at all from NQ after you do the KS99's for a 100% drop pop item? This is not what was asked for or suggested at all. This forum in general asked for reduced spawn times of Land Kings - success, we asked for drop rates from NQ Land Kings or the KS99's to be improved, not removed -fail. Getting pop items to force spawn Kings was suggested, but not with the conditions SE have come up with. I also know that we have to accept some kind of trade off for the reduced timers, but, this is too severe. I have no issue with obtaining KS, they drop like candy levels 36+ in non-abyssea areas, but to earn them and have the option to do KS99's with a chance of getting the BB item without having to do the Land Kings is, I am hoping still there. Well, it will be at least until the update anyway. OMG SE......................I shake my head at you. (runs off to do her KS99's and finish BB before the update).

[Greatguardian]

Yes, they will still be a possible drop from KS99. Nowhere does it mention changing that drop at all.

[Toren]

From the way it looks KSNM's drop rates will remain unchanged, NQ's won't be able to drop them anymore and the items to pop the HQ's are not 100% either, as well as the HQ's not being a 100% on the black belt items as well.

which is where I see the problem coming in especially if you farm 99 seals not to get a HQ pop item from the NQ.