[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Pikel]

I'm actually interested in seeing how this works out the only way I can see this truely being a horrible horrible idea is if they make the spawn items ex.

[Runespider]

99 Kindred's Seals is a little extreme, especially since most of the gear dropped by these mobs are obsolete. For people who don't have thousand's of seals at their disposal, this method is popping is much slower than where it stands now.

For people unable to claim with bots this is far fairer and they might actually get to fight them, as for the gear being obsolete...if that were teh case nobody would care one way or the other. It simply isn't the case, a good portion of them are still desired.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'm actually interested in seeing how this works out the only way I can see this truely being a horrible horrible idea is if they make the spawn items ex.

I didn't even think about that lol

If the spawn items are tradeable It wouldn't be so bad

[Linny]

Where is the probleme? to obtain the kindread seal? the drop rate of pop item is 100%. So when you do a ksnm, you get the item to pop the forced_pop nm, who will give you the item to King, with 0 concurrence or claim bot.

The ksnm was done for a alliance of 75's. So now, with more level and equipement, it should'nt be a problem.
And for BB items I hope the drop rate shoud be at least 10%. I'm not a monk, but I believe BB stat (STR+12, Haste+7,Subtle Blow+5, PDT-5%) require the time you will spend on it.

[Ravenmore]

Thing is nothing of value drops from KS99 except the BB items. IIRC most jobs can get a 7% haste belt so speed belt is for the most part a simple stop gap till bullwhip or twilight belt, and all the craft items rain out of gold boxs.

[Tsuneo]

For people unable to claim with bots this is far fairer and they might actually get to fight them, as for the gear being obsolete...if that were teh case nobody would care one way or the other. It simply isn't the case, a good portion of them are still desired.

The problem isn't about it being fair. Forced pops is a good idea, but making it linked to KSNM makes the whole thing terrible. At this point I'll just try to get my Adamantoise egg before update so I don't have to deal with this terrible system.

[Greatguardian]

What? Really? No one's super happy that there's a reason for people to EXP outside Abyssea from 40-75 again? What's going on? I thought it was like a supermajority of players that wanted some sort of added incentive to EXP normally. This is, like, as big an incentive as they could give.

[Henihhi]

I love this. All the people that cried omg bot and omg Black belt is sooooo hard are getting exactly what they asked for. Enjoy!

[Tsuneo]

What? Really? No one's super happy that there's a reason for people to EXP outside Abyssea from 40-75 again? What's going on? I thought it was like a supermajority of players that wanted some sort of added incentive to EXP normally. This is, like, as big an incentive as they could give.

Must be talking about those people who were mad that they couldn't leech.

[Flunklesnarkin]

KS99's are super weak.. I've already burned all my seals on them trying to get black belt items

like behemoth ks99 can be duoed / trioed easy

fafnir one is a little harder because of the need for magic damage but can still be done with 3 or 4

turtle idk never tried that one seriously lol.. went in and beat on it with a jugpet but it has lame regen.. doesn't seem to have much hp tho.. id imagine 3 or 4 blm's power nuking could make short work of it