[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Xenotime]

This is just as dumb as making a shield better than aegis, you put too much time into something, and this noob spends two weeks, and his shield is better.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'm not too concerned with overcrowding myself..

The drops aren't that spectacular from ground kings anymore.. with the exception of D-ring >_>

They all die super fast also.. give it a month or two and people will burn up all their excess kindred seals.. then it wont be so bad...


It would be nice if there was an alternate means to get the black belt items besides the kindred seals ...

maybe an ENM or let you get a trigger for the NQ hnm's on an enm like timer.

[Runespider]

I for one think this is the worst thing they could possibly do.
The HNMs need to be less annoying to camp, not more annoying to pop.

You still camp them?

Looks good to me, the items they drop are still good and BB is still the best item for that slot. For how rare/good the items are anything else linked with a force pop system would of been stupid. Good addition imo, far more faf/nidd will still be killed than previously.

Everyone complained about easy mode, so you get what you asked for. Decent amount of effort and work for top tier items.

It would be nice if there was an alternate means to get the black belt items besides the kindred seals ...

Every player does not and has never had the right to obtain every item, Abyssea gave people the wrong idea here. If you can't do this open to all system why should they give a baby method, if anyone think this gear good enough to try to get them it's top tier and should be treated as such.

[Zumi]

KS99s were a joke of a fight at 75, they are stupidly easy now at lv 90. More like people don't want to farm mobs for KS cause they already used theirs seals.

[Pikel]

I'm actually interested in seeing how this works out the only way I can see this truely being a horrible horrible idea is if they make the spawn items ex.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'm actually interested in seeing how this works out the only way I can see this truely being a horrible horrible idea is if they make the spawn items ex.

I didn't even think about that lol

If the spawn items are tradeable It wouldn't be so bad

[Runespider]

99 Kindred's Seals is a little extreme, especially since most of the gear dropped by these mobs are obsolete. For people who don't have thousand's of seals at their disposal, this method is popping is much slower than where it stands now.

For people unable to claim with bots this is far fairer and they might actually get to fight them, as for the gear being obsolete...if that were teh case nobody would care one way or the other. It simply isn't the case, a good portion of them are still desired.

[Tsuneo]

For people unable to claim with bots this is far fairer and they might actually get to fight them, as for the gear being obsolete...if that were teh case nobody would care one way or the other. It simply isn't the case, a good portion of them are still desired.

The problem isn't about it being fair. Forced pops is a good idea, but making it linked to KSNM makes the whole thing terrible. At this point I'll just try to get my Adamantoise egg before update so I don't have to deal with this terrible system.

[Kunihiro]

For people unable to claim with bots this is far fairer and they might actually get to fight them, as for the gear being obsolete...if that were teh case nobody would care one way or the other. It simply isn't the case, a good portion of them are still desired.

Blame it on claim bots, it's what people do. I'm sure that every person that has gotten gear of HNMs simply botted. People got drops because they went and you could always out claim a bot. It always came down to luck.

[xiozen]

For people unable to claim with bots this is far fairer and they might actually get to fight them, as for the gear being obsolete...if that were teh case nobody would care one way or the other. It simply isn't the case, a good portion of them are still desired.

Thank you for pointing out that there are quite a few folks, such as myself, who would love to fight these HNMs--since camping them was wayyyyy too time consuming. Now SE has given me a chance to at least experience these fights...regardless of the pops.

Gone are the days of camping for hours and hours and days and days...then to lose the mob to a botter...