[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Kensagaku]

Not really. New players can EXP outside of abyssea rather than keyleech. Those who don't have many KS are out of luck, yes, but it's not that hard to farm them. Heaven forbid you do some work just to get some KS for an item you want. Heaven forbid something take effort.

People asked for something, were vague about it. This is the result. Congrats. ^^

[Henihhi]

Well if you don't want to farm the ks or camp the hnms wtf do you want SE to do for you? Thousands have obtained the black belt in the past, yes it was a pain in the ass, but seriously- do you want to just log in and have it in your inventory? And honestly at lvl 90 it is not that hard to go farm kses for a day. SE decides to release something that suits all of the complaints that have been spammed on here and yet you all are still not happy.Go lvl a job outside abyssea til 80 or so and i guarantee you will have enough ks to do the ksnm lol

[Toren]

Try more along the lines of once per month unless your paying for the items. Honestly this is not about being lazy its about requiring 3-4 weeks of soloing 4-8 hours a day for one fight. I've sit patiently farming the same mobs for 4-8 hours a day many many times and would do it again if my real life permitted. I have my black belt I'm not fighting on my own behalf I'm fighting for those who don't have these items. and its actually 297 seals for just one chance at all 3..., I've worked with camps for years. I've straight camped Tiamat (yes 8+ hours at one camp alone) up into early morning hours and I do not complain about the current system in place for them or kings, however I do not think it should be changed into this.

[Greatguardian]

Naw, it should be changed to something easier than Kings because the bulk of the people who hated Kings were unable to do them.

Protip: Attentive players can, and always have been able been able to outclaim bots.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Naw, it should be changed to something easier than Kings because the bulk of the people who hated Kings were unable to do them.

Protip: Attentive players can, and always have been able been able to outclaim bots.

Regardless of the obvious skill that is required to claim mobs in a video game ( I swore a blood oath to the hindu monks to never reveal their video game claiming secrets)

Its retarded to compete over hnm's or NM's in general.. yes thats an opinion.. and i think its the opinion of most people who play the game.

Most people play to kill NM's and have fun.. not stand around for hours waiting for something to show up.


I think you vastly overestimate the difficulty of hnm's.. sure maybe in 2004 or 2005 the vast majority of players wouldn't be able to kill ground kings.

To suggest that most people can't kill ground kings these days is retarded.

The only issue is actually getting claim.. and this update is helping everybody...

unless you happen to be that one person who was monopolizing the hnm so nobody else could claim ;o

[Greatguardian]

Regardless of the obvious skill that is required to claim mobs in a video game ( I swore a blood oath to the hindu monks to never reveal their video game claiming secrets)

Its retarded to compete over hnm's or NM's in general.. yes thats an opinion.. and i think its the opinion of most people who play the game.

Most people play to kill NM's and have fun.. not stand around for hours waiting for something to show up.


I think you vastly overestimate the difficulty of hnm's.. sure maybe in 2004 or 2005 the vast majority of players wouldn't be able to kill ground kings.

To suggest that most people can't kill ground kings these days is retarded.

The only issue is actually getting claim.. and this update is helping everybody...

unless you happen to be that one person who was monopolizing the hnm so nobody else could claim ;o

I don't overestimate the difficulty of HNMs. They're shit-easy. I simply take a jaded look at the playerbase and realize they'd probably be equipping their Turbans in their Feet slot if the game didn't prevent them from trying.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I don't overestimate the difficulty of HNMs. They're shit-easy. I simply take a jaded look at the playerbase and realize they'd probably be equipping their Turbans in their Feet slot if the game didn't prevent them from trying.

Yah screw the pansy hnm's in ffxi

they need something like kerafyrm the sleeper from everquest.... (he goes zone to zone and kills everybody and doesn't stop >:U)

[Orson]

Yah screw the pansy hnm's in ffxi

they need something like kerafyrm the sleeper from everquest.... (he goes zone to zone and kills everybody and doesn't stop >:U)

I thought that the Sleeper had been killed. We basically had AV. Not only that but PW was so hard it actually made it into the news (albeit videogame news.)

[pheare]

also, this will be a great way to motivate people to start and/or finish their weapon trials. they can now kill their EP mobs while doing trial weapons and getting Kindred Seals for their kings.