[dev1009] Seriously.... how could you make the HNM system worse...

[pheare]

I think people are just afraid of doing work. They use 'can't solo it' as an excuse.

As it stands now(and I'll use Behemoth as the example), people can solo the NQ mob. I usually have about 5 people trying to claim the NQ to solo it. so 20% chance of claim, and 15% chance of that to drop per day. So I'm looking at about 3% per day that I'm going to get my tongue. Plus there are days where the HQ pops that you won't be able to solo it. If it is NQ pop while the HQ window is open the chances of solo people claiming it over a party camping KB is even more slim.

I don't see why people don't have seals, but if you don't I think farming KS/finding a group/killing KS99 > NQ > HQ is going to be a lot better chance AND a lot faster than how it is now. You just have to put in more work into it.

Also, as an alternative, just exp inside abyssea and npc your crap for gil. A bunch of people want D. Rings, and those people also have a lot of Kindred seals. They're going to be doing this A LOT especially after the update. Just camp in the zone and when people come to kill offer them gil for the tongue if it drops, I guarantee you'll get one a lot faster than you can now.

Good move square enix. good move

[Snaplin]

No one uses with your staff and it causes you to have these ideas worthy of multiple facepalms. I am also not trying to derail this thread. Threads evolve and change with the discussion, and expecting one to stay on topic is simply against human nature.

People are not lazy for not wanting to do something absolutely boring and annoying. It is easier to have a ToD and get lucky with a pop soon after getting there. Even if it does not pop right away you have 30 minutes to have a real life. People do actually have those even if you seem to ignore that fact by wanting them to spend hours upon hours farming EPs in a six man group (once again, that will not really happen in such numbers commonly). You get 30 minutes to go do laundry, homework, clean the dishes, and so on.

Saying it is lazy to not spend hours farming KSs out of a preference to claim a time spawn like saying you want to get off a highway to travel on some dirt road because the highway is for lazy people with cruise control in their cars who don't have to even keep their foot on the pedal.

Please, find a little sense.

/thread...

I <3 you.

[KigenAngelios]

I missed the 100% part.

You see, because making the HQs not drop the BB item most people are after when they fight it would be the exact opposite of 100%.

100% meaning, instead of having a chance to claim, it will be yours for sure.

[Sp1cyryan]

/thread...

I <3 you.

Thank you, but if I ever got serious and posted more here (and got banned because honestly a person like me can't make it around here) you would find out that I am the person people love to hate.

[Sp1cyryan]

100% meaning, instead of having a chance to claim, it will be yours for sure.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

Just saying it be much easier to just make the NM repop every 3-6 hours with the HQs being twice a day. That easily amounts to the NMs getting to a point where it is common to see them sitting up. People would still do the KSNM99 for the BB items too if they did not want to camp, and would not be pigeon holed into some stupid time sink.

[Quetzacoatl]

All the whining here is hilarious.

Do you seriously want to go back to paying 10,000,000 gil to another LS for three Quest Items?

[KigenAngelios]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

Just saying it be much easier to just make the NM repop every 3-6 hours with the HQs being twice a day. That easily amounts to the NMs getting to a point where it is common to see them sitting up. People would still do the KSNM99 for the BB items too if they did not want to camp, and would not be pigeon holed into some stupid time sink.

I'm not disagreeing with you by any means. I think this instance is a good compromise and would be a welcome change. My original point is that this HNM change is unacceptable because as you said it "pigeon hold[s players] into some stupid time sink.",

[Sp1cyryan]

All the whining here is hilarious.

Do you seriously want to go back to paying 10,000,000 gil to another LS for three Quest Items?

What is this? 2007?

[Quetzacoatl]

What is this? 2007?

Considering 10 Mil would be a likely total for all 3 items...nah, not really.

[Sp1cyryan]

Considering 10 Mil would be a likely total for all 3 items...nah, not really.

Oh, sorry, 2008.

Anyway, what makes you think if they did something more efficient like make the NQs pop every 3-6 hours that people be paying "10m" for a BB?

Most LSs probably would not even camp it as it not be worth the money. You would have little groups of friends low man it and charge that. The same people that sell Loki's Kaftan for 3m in Port Jeuno because people are dumb and buy it. We should make him a KSNM force pop too to solve it!