[dev1009] Seriously.... how could you make the HNM system worse...

[Tamarsamar]

i don't care to much about ppl killing kings but why should they make D ring easier to get after alot of ppl put in so much time and didication to get one?

Let's see, roughly seven years of being in the game, times 32 servers at an average of five rings a year if you're lucky (minus, of course, five times the eight servers that were deactivated over the past year) . . . yeah, I'm sure those 1080 at most people across all servers would be oh so offended! I'm sure that they are probably just as offended at that as the 100 or so people who got their rings from the Mog Bonanza!

Seriously, dude. Get over yourself.

[Randwolf]

i don't care to much about ppl killing kings but why should they make D ring easier to get after alot of ppl put in so much time and didication to get one? If they removed it from KB and put it like Tia or someting, LW maby id not be so irritated, but i killed KB in 4m with THF SAM BLU RDM RDM & NIN with only 2 meteors goin off.its so ez to kill now. Now it'll be popped like 50x a week and there will be teal or full perle ppl running around with a D ring, quite the slap in my face.

Get over it. Ask all the Thieves that camped the Thief Knife for days and days on end. Then, poof, you can now pop the mob and get the item easily. Or, simply pick one up on the AH for an incredibly low price.

I'm sorry the game didn't stand still for you to continue to feel 1337 for accomplishments past. You can get with the program and keep moving forward. Or, just as in real life, you can do nothing new and look like you stepped out of time machine. Ever seen someone with one of the original cell phones? They paid incredible of amounts of money for it back then. Now, it's worth nothing. Basing your worth on items will always be a losing proposition.

[Rambus]

hmm nice to know people do find problems with this "update"

I think this makes egg above everything else much harder to get then current methods. making dring easier to get is needed though, this update will do that. I do not understand making BB items harder to get though, esp egg.

[Natenn]

5 a year is the best case scenario, lucky if more then 2 drop per server per year. You might be for the everyone gets the best of everything w/o really fighting for it but im not. Anything common isn't worth having most of the time. Use to be if you wanted something prestigious like relics/D rings/things like that, you would have to bust your ass to get one and hope you get lucky on top of that. Now lazy ppl get this stuff with ease. Im against getting stuff w/o effort.

[Natenn]

For 1 there is no real accomplishments anymore, the l33t drops/titles mean zilch now. Hopefully the new content puts and end to all the abyssea gloating crap. I saw a group yesterday use 3 Brew on 1 glavoid, unacceptable. No more easy outs to avoid wipes/losing claim, yes please.

[Denabond]

For 1 there is no real accomplishments anymore, the l33t drops/titles mean zilch now. Hopefully the new content puts and end to all the abyssea gloating crap. I saw a group yesterday use 3 Brew on 1 glavoid, unacceptable. No more easy outs to avoid wipes/losing claim, yes please.

Well Voidwatch will be outside of abyssea, so no more Brew safety net for people who suck now. Now its up to SE to have them be timed NMs or pop NMs is something else entirely.

[Semco]

They say Abyssea saved the game and it did. I for one will be glad to see Abyssea and its ease be some what lessened in this game. I for one loved the challenge this game once presented, Abysseea took that away from players who love challenge. I for one am hoping that changes like this are what we can expect in the future, SOME DIFFICULTY!!!!

[Xellith]

I like being able to schedule NMs around my life rather than my life around the NMs. I also like being able to actually be able to take my LS to do those NMs instead of just no-lifers being able to attend and get the shinys.

This imo is a good change since there are going to be a lot more pops on the servers now. That 3 hours spent waiting to POSSIBLY get a pop can be spent ACTUALLY working on getting a pop.

[Natenn]

But there in lies the problem, whats supposed to make MMO unique is diversity. If eveyone has and does the exact same thing then whats the point in playing? If you want the best gear you should have to pay the price, if you think a 21-24hr pop is omgitssohardtoclaim then you don't camp em. I would get a King pop maby 3-6x a month before when there would always be 100 or more at camp. I think ppl only cry bots to try and justify themselfs in complaing about how they weren't good enough to claim, same goes for calling ppl no lifers. These are are ignorant ppl that go nuts every time they lost a claim and spout off nonsense like "omg bots bots bots they have no life QQQQQQQQQ", we all know several ppl like this and we all know not everyone bots. SE said before they wanted to give us "Choices", my choice is to camp and duke it out for the best gear cause i enjoy doing it. If you dont wanna do that then go to w/e alternative there is for end game equip.

[Anewie]

But there in lies the problem, whats supposed to make MMO unique is diversity. If eveyone has and does the exact same thing then whats the point in playing? If you want the best gear you should have to pay the price, if you think a 21-24hr pop is omgitssohardtoclaim then you don't camp em. I would get a King pop maby 3-6x a month before when there would always be 100 or more at camp. I think ppl only cry bots to try and justify themselfs in complaing about how they weren't good enough to claim, same goes for calling ppl no lifers. These are are ignorant ppl that go nuts every time they lost a claim and spout off nonsense like "omg bots bots bots they have no life QQQQQQQQQ", we all know several ppl like this and we all know not everyone bots. SE said before they wanted to give us "Choices", my choice is to camp and duke it out for the best gear cause i enjoy doing it. If you dont wanna do that then go to w/e alternative there is for end game equip.

I agree with you mostly cause I know you in game and understand what you're saying.

I do think that the best gear should be available only through the most legit way. This way should take time, effort, kill and focus. The thing I love about camping is, it's not easy. It requires me to focus and I kinda enjoy the rush of it. The unknown and luck aspect of it is fun to me but if the drops suck and arent worth anything, ill admit I wouldnt try.

Looking at this from a point of a view of a person who doesn't enjoy camping. I'd think I'd love einherjar. How many of you anti CAMPERS (not anti HNM) but those of you who don't enjoy camping monsters, actually enjoy einherjar? Do you think that's fair? Einher to me is a lot of fun! You can't rush to odin either so this event is the -perfect- event to me that establishes itself as both casual and elite. Its a perfect mix. It's casual in that it only takes 30minutes to do (not counting gather/organize time) and you have to actually focus and be good. (speaking back at 75.. lol) You couldn't just take a bunch of leeched/afk type ppl who want drops handed to them and go straight to odin with 3/3 or 9/9 wins. TYhat's not how it worked, but it was so time friendly and NOT consuming, the only excuse people had for not getting king drops from einherjar was, the group wasn't skilled enough. This event needs to return in some way or get a buff. This is where the BEST drops should be.

The whole 1-7 type spawns (varying from DI to Tiamat etc), those are fun. FFXI should bring back rare NMs. Natenn made a good point earlier in that, where is the accomplishment in defeating NMs now? It was such a huge part of ffxi before, even if you didn't get drop. Those mobs have titles and are called NOTORIOUS monsters. Rare monsters should drop rare gear and FFXI should have rare monsters. It always has and since the cap incease they should invent new ones. These NMs should represent some value to killing/hunting them because they are such a rare sight, killing them should be the reward but to just invent a rare HNM/NM that drops nothing, that kinda lames it out. It's like "oh look! Its a one week spawn NM! Sure looks neat, wanna kill it? Nah cause it doesn't drop anything worthwhile.". It has to have some rare reward that justifies its rarity but also gives people who find it, some prize for killing/finding.


These same prizes should be available through other means because it is simply unfair to make a rare/elite/amazing item exclusive to something that requires so much time and LUCK, to people who don't enjoy playing around camps. Those people don't like luck because their time to devote to game is so minimal compared to the spawn time, luck playing a part in their success would mean little to no success and they are paying customers too.

However, like i said before, this ks99 fix is in there with einherjar in my honest opinion. This is NOT hard. Black belt is a flawless and stunning item and it should be rare. It should only be avilable via LUCK (HNM/NM spawns) or time/devotion/skill. You can farm kS99 on YOUR OWN TIME. Yes, it's time consuming but it's worth the itemand you can construct your game time around farming for ks99s. You can enter KS99 whenever you want and you have to focus to defeat ithe bcnm and the HNM.

I applaud SE for this fix. People didn't want to have to rely on camping kings for BB. Okay, so they added BB items to ks99, and now theyve made kings force pop. The means to obtain this item are more than reasonable and if you are not happy after all these fixes to accomdate your playtime/effort, you simply do NOT deserve the best gear in ffxi over someone who is willing to do it, camps/luck or no camps/luck.