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  1. #41
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    Dont listen to him, hes still with his futile effort to repopulate those dead servers. They are dead and as you say, try to make a group and watch after shouting for hours with 0 progress... Who wants to play like that? Most of those backwater servers are fillled with cliques of people who have been playing for ages and will judge you and look down their nose at you. Just go to Asura and experience a server that is actually alive, who wants to search for a linkshell and feed into the cliques to get any fun or progress? Especially when you dont need many people to clear content these days, higher odds of finding someone who multi-boxes and is self sufficient to team up w/ on Asura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Dont listen to him, hes still with his futile effort to repopulate those dead servers. They are dead and as you say, try to make a group and watch after shouting for hours with 0 progress... Who wants to play like that? Most of those backwater servers are fillled with cliques of people who have been playing for ages and will judge you and look down their nose at you. Just go to Asura and experience a server that is actually alive, who wants to search for a linkshell and feed into the cliques to get any fun or progress? Especially when you dont need many people to clear content these days, higher odds of finding someone who multi-boxes and is self sufficient to team up w/ on Asura
    Why don't you just play a single player game if progress is all that matters and people don't matter at all? PUGs may as well be NPCs.
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    Pick up groups are people? The issue is delusion again it's not 2004... Modern Final Fanatsy 11 has /yell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Dont listen to him, hes still with his futile effort to repopulate those dead servers. They are dead and as you say, try to make a group and watch after shouting for hours with 0 progress... Who wants to play like that? Most of those backwater servers are fillled with cliques of people who have been playing for ages and will judge you and look down their nose at you. Just go to Asura and experience a server that is actually alive, who wants to search for a linkshell and feed into the cliques to get any fun or progress? Especially when you dont need many people to clear content these days, higher odds of finding someone who multi-boxes and is self sufficient to team up w/ on Asura
    This isn't it at all. Whether you want to admit it or not balanced populations are better for everyone. It's not like I want my server to be the big hotbed of activity and yours to be a ghost town. If all I cared about was being around tons of people I would just transfer.

    I don't transfer because of the problems that I know exist on Asura (and the JP equivalent). You see Asura players coming here all the time complaining about the botting and inability to find monster camps etc. If the server populations were more balanced, the botting on any one server would be less severe and you'd be able to find your camps etc. etc. etc. The experience would be better for everyone.

    Asura is larger now than any server was 15 years ago. It was closed for a time because the name database got maxed out. If that's not a clue I don't know what is. I had no problem PUGging or doing anything in 2006 with 1k concurrent users. Everything still happens on Shiva and other servers, but it's usually scheduled in advance by someone and they just let anyone join who wants to until they're full.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 03-11-2022 at 03:11 AM.

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    Final Fantasy 11 would have been the perfect single player game... Once it's become no longer profitable to SE bye bye... It's terrible that this games fate depends on it's Mangina population... Personally the most enjoyable and rewarding experiences have been accomplishing things solo...
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    Speak for yourself. I have such fond memories of this game and playing with my friends. Sadly now that the population is lower, all the extremely vocal minority of mentally ill shut ins are plaguing the remaining community with their negativity. Oh, I will always remember this game fondly, please keep it going SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    This isn't it at all. Whether you want to admit it or not balanced populations are better for everyone. It's not like I want my server to be the big hotbed of activity and yours to be a ghost town. If all I cared about was being around tons of people I would just transfer.

    I don't transfer because of the problems that I know exist on Asura (and the JP equivalent). You see Asura players coming here all the time complaining about the botting and inability to find monster camps etc. If the server populations were more balanced, the botting on any one server would be less severe and you'd be able to find your camps etc. etc. etc. The experience would be better for everyone.

    Asura is larger now than any server was 15 years ago. It was closed for a time because the name database got maxed out. If that's not a clue I don't know what is. I had no problem PUGging or doing anything in 2006 with 1k concurrent users. Everything still happens on Shiva and other servers, but it's usually scheduled in advance by someone and they just let anyone join who wants to until they're full.
    Yes I agree with you for sure, we need balanced servers. That should not fall on the players though, that should be on the company to force server mergers. However, people like you are openly vocal against that.. and yet youre trying to entice people to your backwater server, diminishing the return on their sub fee. Just let SE merge servers, we don't need as many as we have right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    that should be on the company to force server mergers
    I'm not nor did I ever explicitly say I was against mergers, however, it would be better if that wasn't necessary. They should take every step to improve the situation without mergers first, starting with free transfers from higher pop servers to lower pop ones along with fewer limitations on such transfers (i.e. the gil limit etc). FFXIV also offers bonuses including double XP up to a certain level, when you transfer from a server flagged as "congested" to one flagged as "preferred."
    In FFXI's case that would probably be the two largest, Asura and whichever one it is that's favored by the JP playerbase (I forget), Odin and Bahamut being standard, and the rest being "preferred."


    yet youre trying to entice people to your backwater server
    I don't want people to come to my server specifically, I want people to come to all servers instead of just Asura. Of course that's difficult when people go to reddit and everyone there says "join Asura!" And your pejorative use of "backwater" certainly implies you feel your server is better purely because it has the highest population.

    It was really a mistake to remove the world pass system- The whole reason that existed was to facilitate server population balancing.

    Ultimately all player moves should be by choice (Offering incentives does not remove choice) and not forced by a server merge.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 03-13-2022 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Yes I agree with you for sure, we need balanced servers. That should not fall on the players though, that should be on the company to force server mergers. However, people like you are openly vocal against that.. and yet youre trying to entice people to your backwater server, diminishing the return on their sub fee. Just let SE merge servers, we don't need as many as we have right now.
    If they merge servers, just to make it fair to all players on every server, they should force everyone to change their name and break all active linkshells.
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    What kind of friends? Online or real life? That's night and day difference actually being able to high five still has it's charm... It's the type of players you mentioned (^_^) <^>
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