Re-open issue regarding FF!! terrible frame rate on laptop

[Alhanelem]

Way more powerful than you think. Common problem for FFXI to run on an Optimus laptop is Intel and Nvidia as how they designed it to be. Nvidia doesn't care for any DirectX 8 game. FFXI should run fine on my Intel UHD Graphics 360 but it doesn't so I have to use the d3d8.dll and d3d8.ini (Direct3D8 to Direct3D9 Proxy.)

That's not what I was asking. The reason being given is that the game is being forced to run on the integrated graphics instead of the discrete chipset. But even integrated graphics from the last several years ought to have no problem with this game.

[Catmato]

But even integrated graphics from the last several years ought to have no problem with this game.

You're right, it ought not to, but it does. The game was very poorly coded. The experiences of the people in this thread are not unique. Many, many people have problems perfectly maintaining 30fps on even modern hardware with discreet GPUs. Please stop discounting the experiences of people in this thread based on your misinformed assumptions. Telling people they shouldn't have any problems really doesn't help.

[Zehira]

That's not what I was asking. The reason being given is that the game is being forced to run on the integrated graphics instead of the discrete chipset. But even integrated graphics from the last several years ought to have no problem with this game.

To be honest, we knew we love FFXI since 2003 but most of time it's all about the software issues rather than the hardware issues. The modern programmers are too lazy to keep the old games alive. FFXI works fine on a desktop but if you play it on an Optimus laptop you need a special something.

Are you still acting an angry Galka? Always an angry Galka when I say FFXI is still DirectX 8.

[Alhanelem]

To be honest, we knew we love FFXI since 2003 but most of time it's all about the software issues rather than the hardware issues. The modern programmers are too lazy to keep the old games alive. FFXI works fine on a desktop but if you play it on an Optimus laptop you need a special something.

Are you still acting an angry Galka? Always an angry Galka when I say FFXI is still DirectX 8.

I'm not angry about anything? I'm both well aware of and couldn't care less w hat tech the game runs off of as long as we can still play it.

[BobbinT]

anyhoo.....

can forum admin explain why this thread:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/t...-modern-laptop
marked closed, while issue are still not resolved, which they put into "Resolved Issue" section?

I purposely referencing that thread on my 1st post, which I also participate, expecting answers, and still none. :?

[edsports1]

If the OP would post his complete PC setup details, it might help provide some better feedback and get us out of this flame festival. I'm curious to know your technical support feedback as well.

Also, I'm not sure mentioning a 4-year old post to use as a hammer to the human souls that still roam SE's halls is the right method. As my tech friend said, Windows has added so many instruction sets to the OS in recent years that it makes it harder for integrated graphics or any overall setup to run like it did back then. It may still be Windows 10 in name, but the service releases continue to change the environment all of our applications run in, not just FFXI.

Hence, yes, close old post, please start a new one for the new situation so it can be tested and commented on properly, even if it's just from the community. It's the right call.

[BobbinT]

if you must know, & sorry haven't checked again:


https://gadgets.ndtv.com/asus-rog-strix-gl503ge-8195


That's pretty much specs on my laptop, except I replace SSD with old SATA 1TB.


& no, it's still pretty much same situation, but the old post were closed without official explanation & even marked as "Resolved" when it's clearly not. I do get what you guys said, but I do really want to hear from dev's own typing words. I mean... how hard is it to reply? Does idling a topic for certain amount of time automatically marks it as "Resolved" even thought it's still not?

[edsports1]

Alright. A couple things you're going to need to try first.

#1 it helps to re-register the game with system registry as sometimes that will cause certain crashing issues. This will involve a command line interface script. Search command in your circle "Cortana" search button to find and launch the Command App. Once done, drop these two scripts in and hit enter on these, one at a time.

regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXi.dll"
regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXiMain.dll"

Make sure that is where the two files are before you do this.

#2 telling Windows to prioritize the Nvidia graphics instead of Intel

Right-click on the desktop
Click on Display Settings
Scroll all the way down and click Graphics Settings
Choose an app to set a preference > Desktop App
Browse
Locate your pol.exe file in C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\PlayOnlineViewer, then click on add
Options will pop up - Choose High-Performance (assuming it shows your Nvidia card for this option)
Locate your polboot.exe file in C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI, then click on add
Options will pop up - Choose High-Performance (assuming it shows your Nvidia card for this option)

After the above, run the game and check your frame rate in Windows button + G Xbox Game bar and see how it goes. Beyond that, I won't be able to help, but at least this will solve the community help portion of this deal and provide a solid path away from people who want a post count instead of helping you out. And also help to not crash during your first A.M.A.N. Trove back (with two more kills on the next two attempts lol).

[BobbinT]

sorry, was only able to check recently...

Alright. A couple things you're going to need to try first.

#1 it helps to re-register the game with system registry as sometimes that will cause certain crashing issues. This will involve a command line interface script. Search command in your circle "Cortana" search button to find and launch the Command App. Once done, drop these two scripts in and hit enter on these, one at a time.

regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXi.dll"
regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\FFXiMain.dll"

Make sure that is where the two files are before you do this.

#2 telling Windows to prioritize the Nvidia graphics instead of Intel

Right-click on the desktop
Click on Display Settings
Scroll all the way down and click Graphics Settings
Choose an app to set a preference > Desktop App
Browse
Locate your pol.exe file in C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\PlayOnlineViewer, then click on add
Options will pop up - Choose High-Performance (assuming it shows your Nvidia card for this option)
Locate your polboot.exe file in C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI, then click on add
Options will pop up - Choose High-Performance (assuming it shows your Nvidia card for this option)

After the above, run the game and check your frame rate in Windows button + G Xbox Game bar and see how it goes. Beyond that, I won't be able to help, but at least this will solve the community help portion of this deal and provide a solid path away from people who want a post count instead of helping you out. And also help to not crash during your first A.M.A.N. Trove back (with two more kills on the next two attempts lol).

tried your solution & i think it works! at least i didn't experience heavy lag anymore. Thx.


btw, i didn't do your #1 though, just #2.

[Alhanelem]

sorry, was only able to check recently...



tried your solution & i think it works! at least i didn't experience heavy lag anymore. Thx.


btw, i didn't do your #1 though, just #2.

I've had to do that once before, it's only really necessary if your registry gets messed up. Though sometimes this can be caused by having backed up your FFXI install and re-copying the backups over a new install of the game.