new smn ability ideas

[Clou777]

i think summoners should get a JA that allows a BP to be used without having to wait 1 minute to be used again, so can do 2 BP rages close together once every 10 minutes maybe and this ability could also be used to allow the avatars to chain BPs like a WS and make more use of lower lvl BP, example Double Slap > Rush = some skillchain.

also i think all avatars should gain En-spells and Spikes, Ramuh is the only one that has the both, would make more sense as like gods of their respected element to have each avatar with these BP wards, would make smns more party friendly and they could find out enemies weakness and use the correct buffs for the party to give them that edge.

[Soundwave]

Interesting idea, I'm gonna say we need more endgame...unless they consider to add this to SC lvl3's. This job abi won't be to useful useless they reconfigure the SC chart pathing...however I think your on the right track to something more.

[Clou777]

still even if its to finish a SC then follow with say Fire IV for MB

[Venrymel]

I disagree with giving each avatar En- and -Spikes spells, just because it would upset balances a bit. Really, it also wouldn't fit some of their stories, like Titan. I think it's great his Wards are purely protective.

I definitely supprt a JA like the one you described: 10-minute recast, use of next BP is free of its 1-minute recast.

I could use it to give the group both of Titan's Wards.

Merits to reduce that would be great, too.

[Ordoric]

set up avatars power an enspell status spell and a "protective effect"
Leviathan en posion and aquaveil granted for any alliance meber withn area of effect. and have it combine with favor.

[Malamasala]

A 10 min JA for another BP is just as useless as BP:Ward. It lessens the burden of our global BP timer, but does not solve it. What the job needs is many more BP categories.

BP: Elemental (for MBing)
BP: SC/Debuff (for SCs alternatively debuffing the monster)
BP: Rage (for large damage pacts, and AOE damage pacts)
BP: Heal (for healing pacts)
BP: Ward (for defensive pacts)

That would roughly make the job versatile, in that you can actually access pacts when needed, and not just pretend it is Predator Claw Fantasy XI.

[Soundwave]

A 10 min JA for another BP is just as useless as BP:Ward. It lessens the burden of our global BP timer, but does not solve it. What the job needs is many more BP categories.

BP: Elemental (for MBing)
BP: SC/Debuff (for SCs alternatively debuffing the monster)
BP: Rage (for large damage pacts, and AOE damage pacts)
BP: Heal (for healing pacts)
BP: Ward (for defensive pacts)

That would roughly make the job versatile, in that you can actually access pacts when needed, and not just pretend it is Predator Claw Fantasy XI.

I like this and all, but......... don't u think there will be a hate issue if soloing? With so many commands, when the avatar dies...your gonna acquire a lot of hate from these. if soloing a fairly tough mob.

Outside Abyssea would be more of an issue I would say but in Abyssea...lol. Please correct me if I'm wrong

[Malamasala]

All my Summoner ideas are party oriented. It is a MMO after all. Of course the solution to soloing would be to use less BPs.

[Shadobi]

One thing I wish would happen when summoning is the Prime avatars might occasionally be summoned then just the normal ones.

[azjazo]

Gonna copy here what I suggested in other topic (that was off topic actually cuz I didnt saw this thread)
edited a bit so it wont be a shameless copypasta.

A "casting" stance
Super Magical Avatar Stance of Happyness (name subject to change everyone names their suggested abilities to sound cool)
- Fuses the avatar with the elemental spirit of their corresponent element, giving the avatar the capacity to cast and behave like the elemental spirits while retaining the ability to command them and normal bloodpacts.
- Perp cost increases and the effect gets stronger as time passes till a cap like favor stance.
- As the effect gets stronger the avatar gets bonus in damage, reduces recast time on the elemental magic, AI and gives the avatar a "elemental seal" like bonus in accuracy of their bloodpacts.
- It will be required to posses the corresponding elemental spirit magic to activate said ability


a "melee" stance
Super Martial Avatar Stance of Joy
- Fuses the avatar with the player (not literally tho it would be cool)
- Perp cost increases and the effect gets stronger as time passes till a cap like favor stance.
- As the effect gets stronger the avatar gets bonus in their stats while draining the SMN stats, like attack, defense, str, acc, dex etc, diferent avatars would "drain" certain stats more than others
- It will give the avatar a special bonus like double attack, reduce delay, increase damage etc. depending on avatar.

just a couple of ideas, tunning would be the key.