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    Player BST's Avatar
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    The matter is being investigated!

    Unfortunately, while they do, the Bot's have to stay in place, so no Silver Sea Remnants action for anyone yet.

    Game Master's need more direct power in these instances, they should be allowed to remove an obviously disruptive Player/Bot, Obvious because its been going on over 24 hours, Bot because it factually is a Bot, 24/7 same path, KI > Door > Enter Salvage > 365 days of the year, doesn't ever answer /tell, trades, Stands at Doors even when they are Open already, then moves through (Whitegate).
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    Player Pixela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BST View Post
    The matter is being investigated!

    Unfortunately, while they do, the Bot's have to stay in place, so no Silver Sea Remnants action for anyone yet.

    Game Master's need more direct power in these instances, they should be allowed to remove an obviously disruptive Player/Bot, Obvious because its been going on over 24 hours, Bot because it factually is a Bot, 24/7 same path, KI > Door > Enter Salvage > 365 days of the year, doesn't ever answer /tell, trades, Stands at Doors even when they are Open already, then moves through (Whitegate).
    I disagree, the reason they have a separate entity is because it's a form of think tank. They think through implications of the policies they have and this is why they don't just take action on every bot or RMT group.

    A GM just banning every bot and RMT can make the issues worse, it can lead to mass DDOS campaigns that end up costing them tens of thousands of dollars, it can lead to disruption of key endgame content like Ambuscade or dungeons etc.

    The point of the special task force (the same people work on ffxi and ffxiv) isn't to destroy bots and RMT in a zero tolerance policy (they tried this 10 years ago and failed miserably), it's to handle them and try to keep them working in a fashion that has the least impact on other players. It's good to report this stuff but you need to put some faith in them that they are spending a lot of effort figuring out how to deal with things that you haven't thought about.

    The special task force work from an office, they have meetings every morning and they spend more time coming up with strategies than roaming around banning people. Again, keep in mind they don't just deal with FFXI. They are a Square Enix created group that deal with cheating / rmt in general.

    These games bring in tens to hundreds of millions of dollars a year, it's serious buisness.
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    Last edited by Pixela; 12-25-2020 at 11:47 PM.

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    Player Sirmarki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BST View Post
    Game Master's need more direct power in these instances
    Thing is, I'm pretty sure they did at one point. I remember when some guy was caught fishing by a GM and wouldn't respond. The guy just vanished.
    I also went to an area once where someone was botting, years ago, I called a GM and they too just went poof into a cloud of smoke.
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    Sirmarki, ex-Fenrir, a young warrior, in the heyday.