Crafting Hack & Bots

[Sirmarki]

There's a clear difference between trades with an NPC (which only show one item window) and those with players, so I really hope nobody is falling for this.

Well, they are. They have taken some expensive items from people. Regardless of players being more vigilant or not, they are clearly trying to defraud players. Firstly by using automation to initiate trade, and secondly they
literally bury themselves into the NPC, so other than the name at the top, you can't really see them.

[Miragem]

My apologies, poor choice of words on my end for I didn't mean it in that context. What I meant to say is that the scammer in question could have migrated from a smaller populated server... hence why would they stay there, when there is a broader clientele on Asura with lots of returnees etc etc. With that being said, please use F8 to avoid any risk of trading to that individual.

I don't want the market to myself either, but I am almost certain I speak for many crafters on my previous statement. I understand RMT will always be involved in most online games without a doubt. My only issue is the exploit being used... I can compete with RMT crafters, but I don't wish to use tools that will facilitate those outcomes. Craft like the rest of us, you're only hurting the economy because the prices are not what they should be.

Just because this game is a business to some of you, does not give you the right to ruin it for others. Aren't you already doing enough by plaguing CP camps / Selling Gear/Conent / and killing the economy. One can even argue those cheap prices are a good thing because more people can afford them but there needs to be a balance to maintain a healthy economy. When you buy gil to purchase something exclusive @AH you are giving the gil right back to the RMT. I wish SE would get more involved on the bots shouting 24/7 and their associates @ the camps. What's happening right now is the result of people doing whatever they want because there is little repercussions being enforced on SE's end.

[Sirmarki]

I wish SE would get more involved on the bots shouting 24/7 and their associates @ the camps. What's happening right now is the result of people doing whatever they want because there is little repercussions being enforced on SE's end.

My fear of them reaching into other areas such as Abyssea and botting/dominating the spawn NM's and selling items is becoming a reality.

This is the result of an amount of players using 'services' be it mercing or power levelling. The bots wouldn't be around otherwise, and they probably 'learned' their tricks from the mercs in the first place.

[Armoredwolf]

please use F8 to avoid any risk of trading to that individual.

Not on the Asura cesspool, but keep in mind if he's starting trades with people, the trade option on the main menu will accept a player trade over starting a NPC trade.

Odoro offers to trade with you.
You target Oboro correctly, open main menu, and hit trade.
Trade opens with Odoro, not Oboro, because you have a pending trade offer.

I can see how people can easily make that mistake, especially if trading tired. It seems like it should be a slam dunk for a ban, though.

[Jerbob]

I didn't realise how much quite how much the omnipresence of TOS violations was annoying me until I stopped playing - and I was pretty vocal about it even before I reached that point. I'm becoming increasingly convinced that it's just not worth playing with the current lack of enforcement. It's just hard to take that final step and cancel, you know? Hope springs eternal and all that.

[Divinas]

Asura was a mistake.

[Dragoy]

Where is this Oboro and/or Odoro you speak of?



(With names enabled it's even harder to see anything there.)

But yeah, on a more serious note, that's pretty low. We've had those scammers on Fenrir, too, who sell singles for stack prices (or something like that), but I haven't seen this one before.

[Sirmarki]

Where is this Oboro and/or Odoro you speak of?

Right here:

[Alhanelem]

Well apparently people need to be made aware to check before doing trades. If you see two item windows, you're trading with a player, not an NPC. do yell and shout campaigns. flood the help desk with reports.

[Sirmarki]

Well apparently people need to be made aware to check before doing trades. If you see two item windows, you're trading with a player, not an NPC. do yell and shout campaigns. flood the help desk with reports.

People have, but they are still there...