Concerning Merit Points.

[Krashport]

I've just capped out every Job and their all fully merited, Through Groups 1 and 2, HP/MP, Attributes, Combat Skills, Magic Skills, Others, Merit Weapon skills at 5/5x3 are all done. On that note there isn't anything else that I can Merit.

Edit: Rereading those ideas I had and looking back at them now, I am not to happy with them. So therefore, I'm just going to leave it like this. GILS means INCREDIBLY SILLY

Ideas:
1~30 Merits =

I would like to Request: Could we trade in our Merit Points, Cause as it is now we're just sitting on 30/30, Thanks for taking the time to read.

[Mirabelle]

Or you could stop meriting once you are maxed out.

Seriously though, this isn't a bad idea. Just as slong as the rewards weren't overpoweringly good. Don't need people taking up xp slots in alliances who are just farming.

[Economizer]

Not the first thread about this, and probably not the last:

One thread:

just a idea but what about a option to have xp converted to curor conquest points, imperial standings, or allied notes for when someones xp and merit points are caped on a job. It's rather painfull to see all that xp go to waste. Even if the conversion was on a reduced scale form the xp to the others it would be good with the person choosing which they want to hav eit set to. Would also help with the cost of voidwatch alot..

A post in another thread:

I think that regardless of how many things SE gives us to merit (even if they don't cap categories that don't need caps) we'll still eventually cap them. I suggest that to remedy this, we should be able to convert Merits to something else. Some form of currency would be nice, even if it is gil, but Beastmen's Seals or something like that would work too. Or it could work with one of the newer things they are doing like points for the daily reward system.

A few ideas of things that merit points could be transferred into (ratios subject to SE's judgement, and some items could cost more then one merit):

• Gil
• Conquest Points
• Imperial Standing
• Allied Notes
• Cruor
• Beastmen's Seals / Kindred's Seals / Kindred's Crests / High Kindred's Crests
• Dominion Notes
• Daily Reward Points
• Traverser Stones
• Ancient Beast Coins
• Ancient Currency
• Alexandrite

Of course, some of these things might not be suitable, but these are just suggestions.

A post from another thread:

Not the first thread about this, and probably not the last:

[DrStrangelove]

I've just capped out every Job and their all fully merited through Groups 1 and 2, HP/MP, Attributes, Combat Skills, Magic Skills, Others, Merit Weapon skills at 5/5x3 are all done. On that note there isn't anymore I can use Merits for.

I would like to Request: Could we trade in merit Points for something.

Ideas:
30 Merits = 1 million Gils/Curor/Notes/Tabs/standings/conquest.

Corrected to the approximate current ratio:

30 Merits = 30,000 Curor/Notes/Tabs/standings/conquest.

What you did was suggest that people be given 33 times the current bonus for xp-ing. Unneccessary. People already are accumulating vast amounts of these with little to no outlet. Having 33x as much of what is already a surplus makes no sense.

Making XP transferable to gil is unnecessary. There are already mechanisms to do that in the game.

10 Merits = 1 Resistance to those elements stats under your Attack and Defense.

So, people could cap elemental resistance without gear changes or barfire/fira? Why not add -pdt and merit +haste as well? Why not +damage to weapons?

Elemental effects are integral to the game. It's drastically imbalanced to make changes like this that would enable people to build full time fool's drinks (or partial fool's drinks) on their character.

15 Merits = Race change, Name change.

Should be done, but for a fee and limited (once per character? once per year? idk, but not every hour which is what 15 merits takes.)

10 Merits = Temps items on the fly.

I assume you mean, we could get fools or fanatics where ever we are ("on the fly"). That's overpowered in many zones. Abyssea / GoV/ VW are not the rest of the game.

[Theytak]

[SIZE="5"]STOP SAYING "Gils". GIL IS BOTH SINGULAR AND PLURAL, YOU DO NOT ADD AN "s" TO THE END TO MAKE IT PLURAL. SAYING GILS MAKES YOU SOUND INCREDIBLY SILLY AND IT DRIVES PEOPLE INSANE.[/SIZE]

[Economizer]

The names of those threads could've fooled me.... and most are not on topic and all over the place.

All of those were on topic in their relevant threads.

These are just a thought, Thanks for taking the time to read. If you have any ideas on this matter Please list them.

And as per what you said there, they are relevant here. Every single one is an idea for converting merit points.

But if all you wanted to talk about was this...

Ideas:
30 Merits = 1 million Gils/Curor/Notes/Tabs/standings/conquest.
10 Merits = 1 Resistance to those elements stats under your Attack and Defense.
15 Merits = Race change, Name change.
10 Merits = Temps items on the fly.

...then you should have said so, but I would hope this isn't such a small minded thread.

If you really want feedback on the ideas on the original post, all the ideas on the original post were terrible, but that's part of the problem with suggesting specific numbers for things, a good portion of suggestions with them have no idea of game balance in any sense of the word.

Temps would be a very hard idea to implement in general, and most implementations, particularly the ones I'd imagine people suggesting, are completely horrible. At best I'd see people maybe getting stuff like eye drops, an antidote and some echo drops when they zone into an area. More then that would horribly throw off any balance that we have, and even that small amount would change a ton of things.

Race/name changes based on merits are a bad idea period. But I have a feel that you don't get why from this comment:

whats really the point in waiting that long?

Racial choices aren't something that are supposed to be changed at the drop of a hat, otherwise we might as well just have it be a piece of gear you can equip. Nor are names supposed to be something easy to change. There is a reason SE has a couple month cool-down on server changes in addition to the price, and it has little to do with the cost of implementation. Certain things are better left relatively static... in this case the reason has to do with reputation and identity, concepts I'm not sure I can easily explain to you at this time.

Elemental resistance boosts are already a merit for White Mage (and not meriting it is a bad idea), if you need it, get one of those, and if you are suggesting something outside that, I think it is a bad idea as well. The easiest way to increase your elemental resistance outside of a White Mage however, is to level up.

Converting it into other things like items are okay, but like I said, suggesting specific numbers will run into issues. Gil is another bad suggestion, as other posters have pointed out there are methods for converting the other things into those, and what they may or may not have pointed out, at much more favorable rates then 1:1.

I really hope you aren't closing your mind to actual suggestions about this, particularly the list I quoted earlier. I'll quote it again because it is still the most pertinent thing to this topic.

A few ideas of things that merit points could be transferred into (ratios subject to SE's judgement, and some items could cost more then one merit):

• Gil
• Conquest Points
• Imperial Standing
• Allied Notes
• Cruor
• Beastmen's Seals / Kindred's Seals / Kindred's Crests / High Kindred's Crests
• Dominion Notes
• Daily Reward Points
• Traverser Stones
• Ancient Beast Coins
• Ancient Currency
• Alexandrite

As an added thought, certain items on this list might even be capped per day to prevent farming via experience points being abused, such as the Daily Reward Points counting towards the cap of 10 per day that you can get for trading in items.

[Gouka]

There have been many responses in the vein of what you say you're looking for. All of these people have given you feedback on your ideas and pointed you in the direction of others who have posited them before you. Honestly, I really have no idea why you spent time re-capping your merits after you knew you had nowhere to put them, but you seem to be pretty upset about it.

[detlef]

Pretty sure NPCs in the game use gils.

Would be nice to be able to trade merit points for voiddust and cells.

[Mirabelle]

Edit:

Merits recapped themselves over time, I been unlocking and helping LS members with their Empy and other stuff.

Well admittedly then you weren't working for those limit points so why should you get something for them?
It's funny how things have changed. In the old days we'd have loved to get easy xp to recap our jobs for the next deathga in Dynamis. Now its so easy to get xp and so hard to lose it, people want something for this "extra" xp that accrues over time.

[Krashport]

Well admittedly then you weren't working for those limit points so why should you get something for them?
It's funny how things have changed. In the old days we'd have loved to get easy xp to recap our jobs for the next deathga in Dynamis. Now its so easy to get xp and so hard to lose it, people want something for this "extra" xp that accrues over time.

Great point!

It's not about not getting something for them, Kinda like back in the day the Content was slow going and it took longer to fully cap things, As to now things are much faster and sitting on 30 merits I guess is more of an eyesore then anything.