Guardstance?

[Captain]

Speak for yourself.

I agree with your statement if it's directed toward bad players and bandwagon monks, but this was never a problem for good monks, lol.

So you're telling me, you was able to be effective on something like Kirin, WITHOUT zerging at level 75 as opposed to a samurai? and don't pull out the "oh ur ls must have sucked if it wasn't zergin kirin lol1" I'm talking about just how effective mnk was in endgame, because it honestly wasn't and if you think it was then, I have nothing more to say.

[Cream_Soda]

Ok so you want to talk about which job is more effective at fighting kirin the most ineffective way? Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly.

ITT: Kiting kirin is end game and zerging him is not!

P.S. Kirin is the only mob in the game as well!

[Captain]

Ok so you want to talk about which job is more effective at fighting kirin the most ineffective way? Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly.

ITT: Kiting kirin is end game and zerging him is not!

P.S. Kirin is the only mob in the game as well!

Nice come back man, you totally proved to me that you was totally exceptional and was able to be effective at endgame at 75 on mnk with your chi blast build and epic win. /clap.

[Cream_Soda]

Nice come back man, you totally proved to me that you was totally exceptional and was able to be effective at endgame at 75 on mnk with your chi blast build and epic win. /clap.

or how about I kill my Kirin in under a minute while you meditated and ran in and ws'd once every 2 and a half minutes?

The only thing you've proven is that your LS was below par. Was your ls one of the ones who kited it for so long the thing ran out of MP before you were able to kill it?

Mnk was a very effective job a killing kirin in the most effective way to kill it.

Mnk was the go to tank for salvage.

Mnk was able to tank the small things like Dynamis, Limbus and Einherjar as well as most of their NMs and Mega Bosses

Have tanked Khimera and Cerb on mnk

Etc. etc.

A) again mnk was effective on Kirin. I'm sorry your ls utilized crappy strategies
B) Does none of my list constitute as endgame?

[Captain]

or how about I kill my Kirin in under a minute while you meditated and ran in and ws'd once every 2 and a half minutes?

The only thing you've proven is that your LS was below par. Was your ls one of the ones who kited it for so long the thing ran out of MP before you were able to kill it?

Mnk was a very effective job a killing kirin in the most effective way to kill it.

Mnk was the go to tank for salvage.

Mnk was able to tank the small things like Dynamis, Limbus and Einherjar as well as most of their NMs and Mega Bosses

Have tanked Khimera and Cerb on mnk

Etc. etc.

A) again mnk was effective on Kirin. I'm sorry your utilized crappy strategies
B) Does none of my list constitute as endgame?

Salvage hell no, the rest totally!, mnk was definitely number 1 choice for tanking in all of those events. Average mnks at that, any mnk could straight tank cerb and khimera couldn't it? yeah.

[Cream_Soda]

So what are you basing your mnk was a shitpiece statement on? 1 monster that mnk wasn't even shit on, if you used any half decent strategy on it?

[Cream_Soda]

Average mnks at that, any mnk could straight tank cerb and khimera couldn't it?

idk what the average mnk was like on your server but on Fairy/Sylph, every mnk that I would trust to do something and me personally go on another job was on my friend list.

That being said, the average mnks on my server were always something I'd personally avoid.

[Captain]

So what are you basing your mnk was a shitpiece statement on? 1 monster that mnk wasn't even shit on, if you used any half decent strategy on it?

Sorry man, but mnk was shit at endgame in general, salvage and dynamis mnk was good, anything else it wasn't very effective, you can tell me all about your great exploits on mnk all day with the massive amounts of time it took for you to even reach such a point back in those days and I will say the same, mnk was shit at endgame, or to put it in nicer words for you so you don't cry more about it, it was the probably the least effective melee type for endgame. But anyway Guard needs to be fixed.

[Cream_Soda]

You're going back and forth on yourself.

You just said

mnk was definitely number 1 choice for tanking in all of those events.

and just flopped back to

but mnk was shit at endgame in general

So again, I ask. What are you basing this on? Because as it is now, you're not making a very good point, lol.

Define all the activities you consider "general endgame", the most efficient method to do that event, and why mnk was not a effective in the execution of that strategy.

[hiko]

plds tanking with DD (without buffer in pt) SATA Wsing the pld?