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    This is just bad for players who make their gil this way. RMT have been in this game for as long as I can remember.
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    Last edited by svengalis; 06-04-2020 at 12:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Who is everyone else? There is far more ways of making money in the game.
    We have too much gil in circulation, unlimited amounts being "printed" and everything has shot up in price because of it.

    Stand at the Vendor NPC and you will see clusters of "players" stuck together, touch the NPC vendor for 1 second and run back and fourth to the sparks NPC.
    How? Cause I'm not aware of any others beside selling currencies. Selling currencies doesn't put gil in the game it just rotates it. One thing I never understood in this game was why it was so hard to actually farm gil from quest.

    Everything like what? The best items in the game have always been priced out of most people's reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Maybe, maybe not, that will then get patched. It will be a lot harder though. Sparks (gain exp) you are talking millions upon millions of gil in 10 minutes with a multi-boxer who is bending mechanics by not even interacting with the NPC's in the native form, enabling them to trade a mass of items in half a second.

    People abuse the system, what do they expect will happen?
    If they are doing this RMT will just create a new account and start the process all over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Without a doubt. One thing I am interested in, has this problem of RMT sparks/unity been widespread or is it a fault of THAT server again(?) which has initiated this move.
    tbh ive never seen ambiohrogh RMT trading sparks for gil during gain exp.
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    What exactly is the issue with sparks/accolade farming? Because it can't be because people are buying gil. People have been buying gil way before sparks/accolades became a thing. And from what I heard most gil sellers were leaving the market because it's not worth it anymore. So my original statement stands.

    If anything sparks/accolades farming was a combat to RMT.

    At this point it seems this has already been implemented so all we can do is wait and see what kind of effect this has on us. I wander what research they did to come to this conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    This will not stop RMT or people from buying gil, it actually might make more people buy gil now that you take away an easy way to make some gil.

    RMT will just go back to other ways to farm gil, so this does nothing to stop them.
    Exactly. When you make something hard to do people are just going to find easier ways to do it. If gil is easy to earn most people would not buy it.
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    I'm not sure why SE is doing this (maybe its to combat the bots? I guess the bots are sparks farming?), I have made most of my gil from farming sparks/accolades but I could have so much more from selling my ambuscade currencies. I have less then 100m gil on me but I have hundreds of millions in currencies sitting on a mule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Exactly. When you make something hard to do people are just going to find easier ways to do it. If gil is easy to earn most people would not buy it.
    It is easy to earn if people use a bit of grey matter. You mention people buying gil, then they are either incredibly lazy or stupid (or both?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    I'm not sure why SE is doing this (maybe its to combat the bots?).
    As they have said in their notes - that is the exact reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    I wander what research they did to come to this conclusion.
    Well, on a busy server (Asura). Observe the sparks/vendor NPC and you will see players all stuck together, or with anon names and the same gear using this method.
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