November 2019 FINAL FANTASY XI Digest

[Seish]

It's a versatile job and is very difficult to enhance it too much without making it OP. A lot of jobs are having this issue honestly and is why I pointed in a previous thread that SE should point us to where they are taking the game. It seems a LOT of jobs are at this point it feels like.

Knowing that, would that change your mind? How would you enhance it without it intruding too much into what other jobs currently do?

[Zehira]

It's a versatile job and is very difficult to enhance it too much without making it OP. A lot of jobs are having this issue honestly and is why I pointed in a previous thread that SE should point us to where they are taking the game. It seems a LOT of jobs are at this point it feels like.

Knowing that, would that change your mind? How would you enhance it without it intruding too much into what other jobs currently do?

Currently, I am fine the way SCH is for now. It has its limited stratagem (5 charges) for using both accession and perpetuance (Regen V + Indi-Refresh FTW). It's just not as good as WHM, a reason is if you use Cure IV too much it builds more hate than Cure V can do. Cure V is not compatible with accession because SCH doesn't have that spell. What else can make it better? I don't know. This adjustments just gives /SCH more love while main SCH is happy with Sublimation improved so I don't need any Refresh. While SCH only has Cure that up to tier 4, I use my other GEO to balance healing enmity.

[Alhanelem]

@Seish: Not one word of your last post has anything to do with the November 2019 update, so it has no place being in this thread. I also did not accuse you of anything, other than posting about an irrelevant topic to the thread, which also happens to be a dangerous topic on these forums to be discussing as a general rule, unless you are actively trying to get yourself banned from here. ^^;;

Back on topic, are there any SCH-main players who have any feedback about what they gave to /SCH? XD I don't really play the job, so I'm not that familiar with what would work as "good" adjustments and can't give any feedback beyond laughing at how /SCH benefits far more than SCH/ from the changes.

With all due respect though, you aren't a forum moderator and don't make the rules. Whilst I agree that the tangental discussion is better served in another thread (if at all) It isn't your place to tell people where they can and can't post things. If the community team/SE has a big enough problem with it, they'll take action. Don't be a backseat mod. As a moderator on various other forums it REALLY irritates me when users try to take moderation issues into their own hands.

[Seish]

It's no different having those gaming keyboards that have hotkeys. In a sense, it's kinda like automating, but the difference is that it's done with hardware and is a function that is not exploitatious. You aren't going to be able to do the same thing again and again and again of complex tasks like a bot. But it's like rapid-fire for a controller, which exists. Are they cheating? No.

[Nyarlko]

With all due respect though, you aren't a forum moderator and don't make the rules. Whilst I agree that the tangental discussion is better served in another thread (if at all) It isn't your place to tell people where they can and can't post things. If the community team/SE has a big enough problem with it, they'll take action. Don't be a backseat mod. As a moderator on various other forums it REALLY irritates me when users try to take moderation issues into their own hands.

I've seen people get banned from here for less potentially-objectionable-to-the-devs posts, so my advice really was given in the spirit of a friendly warning to a fellow player. There are few enough of us who bother to type in these forums these days for me to just idly stand by and watch someone throw themselves face-first into a banhammer.

I will admit that I was probably getting a tiny bit irked at that point because I got a full screen rant in response to a two sentence warning to be careful, all of which had nothing to do with complaining about this update's "job adjusments". ^^;; Since I happen to play BST and can talk to the shortcomings it has currently, personally, I want to focus on the slap in the face that I received this month in the thread dedicated to this month's update. Can you really blame me for that? lol

BTW, I would be offended as a player if they did this with any job, even one that I don't personally enjoy. I just don't know what to really make of the SCH adjustment, (other than the obvious joke about it being a great update for /SCH,) and even the few people I know who do play SCH couldn't come up with any sane improvements, so I'm also curious what anyone else has to say about it.

[Zehira]

I just don't know what to really make of the SCH adjustment, (other than the obvious joke about it being a great update for /SCH,) and even the few people I know who do play SCH couldn't come up with any sane improvements, so I'm also curious what anyone else has to say about it.

I just leave it to BLM vs SMN problems. It's their own problems. Not to try to use FFXIV jokes. I'd rather to balance WHM instead though.

[Seish]

I will admit that I was probably getting a tiny bit irked at that point because I got a full screen rant in response to a two sentence warning to be careful, all of which had nothing to do with complaining about this update's "job adjusments". ^^;; Since I happen to play BST and can talk to the shortcomings it has currently, personally, I want to focus on the slap in the face that I received this month in the thread dedicated to this month's update. Can you really blame me for that? lol

It doesn't matter if you had a bad day, or if you had whatever, you divest emotions and try to remain logical in a discussion that had no personal attacks thrown to anyone--at all. Bad grades, bad day, disagreements with others, or a job nerf on a video game, shouldn't be motivation to personally attack someone. And if you disagree with me, keep it with the topic not deviate and personally attack the indvidual. Don't try to scare me into submission. I read the rules and I posted what I did knowing that I won't get in trouble. I understand your frustration. When MNK got nerfed to the ground, my one and only job, that I honestly cared for the most, was not the same and my motivation for playing went away. It took my motivation to play. So seeing that you are passionate about a job that you are willing to defend it makes me happy. We need the community to continue that passion--no matter the opinion for that matter. Ergo, why I brought up trying to create a classic server, from a job mechanic perspective--to include BST which we can get into.

I don't take offense personally what you said, knowing that your passion is what drives this. But the biggest takeaway is try to divest emotions from it. There is a ignore list if you really dislike what I say and I would encourage you to utilize that resource if you feel any ill emotions towards me. But we are all in the same community, and like you I want to see it grow.

[Beastorizer]

I have serious question for the devs. I am not trolling or flaming. This is a serious question.

Why do you insist on releasing repeat jug pets instead of actual new ones? I would really appreciate an answer. There has to be a reason, right?

[Gwydion]

Hoping this thread receives an official response from the DEV team. It has been years since an update received such an overwhelming response on these forums.