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    Player Voidstorm's Avatar
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    Sorry to derail; free bump I guess.
    I'd personally like to see the cap increased for all jobs to TH12. THF can proc to 14 quickly instead of by taking forever or getting extremely lucky.
    It's very difficult for any non-thf to get all that high a TH without some very rare items or augments. It would however take the focus of thief off of just being brought in for TH instead using it for its other skills instead.

    now back to the question needing answered for this thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    As it stands now, there is some debate on the significance of Treasure Hunter levels 1-4 vs higher values of Treasure Hunter. (People are arguing over where using a party slot of Thief (TH8-12,13,14) is worth the effort or worth taking up a party slot.

    Could you tell us how TH1-4 contributes to the increased drop-rate of an item? Could you compare this to Treasure Hunter levels 8-14? At the very least, if you could tell us if each level of TH is a uniform increase, that would be a huge help.

    My guess: Is each Treasure Hunter level a "roll" at getting a certain item with a %-drop rate to appear in the treasure pool? i.e. TH8 is 8 rolls at item with some-percentage drop-rate to occupy a slot in the treasure pool?

    OR

    Does TH1-4 contribute to an increased change of said item dropping? Does TH8+ further increase those chances, but considerably less than TH1-4?

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidstorm View Post
    Sorry to derail; free bump I guess.
    I'd personally like to see the cap increased for all jobs to TH12. THF can proc to 14 quickly instead of by taking forever or getting extremely lucky.
    It's very difficult for any non-thf to get all that high a TH without some very rare items or augments. It would however take the focus of thief off of just being brought in for TH instead using it for its other skills instead.

    now back to the question needing answered for this thread:
    How about no. TH4 is sufficient, infact too high as it is. It would not 'take the focus off of thf' it would remove thf from the game.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isola View Post
    How about no. TH4 is sufficient, infact too high as it is. It would not 'take the focus off of thf' it would remove thf from the game.
    Unless something smart happened like THF actually being worth using for anything other than TH.
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    I would love the official word on it from them.

    I can tell you though that TH1 and TH2 are significant increases, and TH3-14 are insignificant increases. The difference in TH4 (no THF) and TH8 (THF but no effort to raise base level) is a wash. 8 is higher than 4 but it is insignificantly higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isola View Post
    I would love the official word on it from them.

    I can tell you though that TH1 and TH2 are significant increases, and TH3-14 are insignificant increases. The difference in TH4 (no THF) and TH8 (THF but no effort to raise base level) is a wash. 8 is higher than 4 but it is insignificantly higher.
    I too would love an official answer as well. Please like my question and hopefully they will answer it again. I think we should have have small glimpse into what Treasure Hunter 8-14 brings to the table (and help us decide if we should absolutely include a THF, or perhaps kill slower to proc TH 12, 13 or 14).

    Please help us, SE.
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    Honestly I would prefer they just go ahead and lie about 8-14 cause the last thing I want is people killing everything slower for 1% drop increases.

    More, faster, with 8 is better than less, slow, with 12-14
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    Have you never seen people get totally naked except TH gear and fight KB. I have. They turn a 60 second fight into a 20 minute wtfshow. Ignoring the fact that TH does nothing for Dring, what they're doing is absolutely unacceptable. There is no excuse for that.

    Most of the time, THF is strictly brought for TH. They aren't exceptionally sturdy, or powerful (theyre fine, just not exceptional) and the "enmity master" role they're supposed to have is VERY lacking.
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    Last edited by Isola; 10-31-2019 at 09:44 AM.

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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isola View Post
    Have you never seen people get totally naked except TH gear and fight KB. I have. They turn a 60 second fight into a 20 minute wtfshow. Ignoring the fact that TH does nothing for Dring, what they're doing is absolutely unacceptable. There is no excuse for that.

    Most of the time, THF is strictly brought for TH. They aren't exceptionally sturdy, or powerful (theyre fine, just not exceptional) and the "enmity master" role they're supposed to have is VERY lacking.
    Your example isn't a very good one- That's just being lazy- it doesn't say anything about THF's actual usefulness (or lack thereof).

    Again though, if that's actually the problem, then it's something that needs to be addressed in a balance update.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Wasn't it previously explained that more treasure hunter basically means more rolls for drop slots that aren't fixed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Wasn't it previously explained that more treasure hunter basically means more rolls for drop slots that aren't fixed?
    Please stop de-railing this thread.
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