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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    Also, Ddadadang!
    Again, spawn conditions are not drop rates.

    I'm fully aware of such spawn conditions and they exist all over the game. Show me a monster whose drop rates change based on time elapsed of the content said monster belongs to.

    You can not eyeball a handful of monster drops and invent a pattern that does not exist.

    You can flip a coin 100 times and get 60 heads in a row, that doesn't mean that coins land on heads more than tails.
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  3. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    The point is that its based on a timer which most of the game is based upon so it does not exclude drop rates. Excluding it as a possibility is like believing that "some corporation" arnt making programmed obsolescence and that every rose is red or pink... make it drink black ink and youll get a whole different vision. This game is based on mathematics fundamentally out of game play more than some other games so, internally who know, going by your logic, easter eggs do not exist.
    No, you're asserting that it's based on a timer, which is an unproven theory, not a fact. A theory based on a small amount of anecdotal "evidence" which is well, well within margin of error.

    The rest of your post isn't even worth a response, just a bunch of radical assumptions and irrational logic. Where in the world did I suggest or imply "easter eggs don't exist? There is no way you could extrapolate that logic from my post.
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  4. 08-06-2020 12:02 PM
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    IE: (HTB)

    Items droprate can be enhanced with treasure hunter while difficulty lvl also increase%.

    Why could it not have more variables to it?
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    Last edited by Ruf; 09-26-2020 at 02:13 AM.
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  6. 08-06-2020 12:05 PM
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  7. 08-06-2020 12:06 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    I did not say it is but im saying that it could be
    THe possibility that it could be is so remote that it may as well be zero.

    Again, collect data and we can talk. I'm sick of these conspiracy theories.

    You can not infer a pattern based on a handful of eyeballed results.
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  9. 08-06-2020 12:08 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    THe possibility that it could be is so remote that it may as well be zero.

    Again, collect data and we can talk. I'm sick of these conspiracy theories.

    You can not infer a pattern based on a handful of eyeballed results.
    I believe in the 1%.
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    Last edited by Ruf; 09-25-2020 at 12:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    I just said that I believe in the 1% and then you tell me 0? You dont believe in 1% gotcha.
    You can think whatever you want, but thoughts are not facts.

    But thanks for essentially admitting how unlikely this theory is to be true.
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    You are welcome, Good night!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    I think you misunderstand. I am stating anecdotally, that I have witnessed more Volte bodies drop from Wave 2 Bosses being defeated in the first 30 minutes of a run (intended as a Wave 3 run) vs other runs, where farming occurs in Wave1/2 (and as a result Wave 2 Boss is killed in the last 30 minutes of a run). I've personally killed this Windy Wave 2 boss over 100 times over the last 3 years and never saw the body drop when Fii Pexu was killed at the end of run (having spent more than an hour in the zone). Meanwhile other friends have entered, killed the wave 2 boss immediately, with little to no TH, and still got the body to drop on a few occasions.

    So I am postulating to SE the following question: Does a Volte body drop more frequently if the Wave 2 boss is killed earlier in the run vs later in the run?

    Also, to Alhanaelem's assertion, there ARE at least one or two Salvage NMs whose spawn conditions occur if you reached a certain floor within 45 minutes, etc. (Therefore it's not entirely out of the question for a Wave 2 boss to have different drops rates depending how early or late he is killed in a run).
    Bumping in the hopes of hearing from SE. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    Bumping in the hopes of hearing from SE. Thanks.
    They don't respond to thread bumps. Add something meaningful to the thread or leave it be.

    I'm just going to tell you right now straight up it doesn't, and let you keep concocting conspiracy theories.
    You have no evidence that this even *could* be a thing and niether does anyone else. Your conditions for it are also completely arbitrary and have no basis in logic. The community team has better things to do than get every wild conspiarcy theory proven or disproven.
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    I want SE to prove to the world that refresh can't drop from a Taisai. It's never happened, but you can't prove that something never will happen!
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