Originally Posted by
Xilk
This mis-quote right here tells me you need to go back and reread more carefully.
Well, I do not need to read carefully because my stance is not an oxymoron. I did not mis-quote you, because you stated you wanted a power-boost, but disagree with stronger jugs, or me, as stated right here.....
IF you want to know why people are disagreeing with you its very simple.
1. Your approach is completely 1-sided. You want a power level OVER 9000!!!
Nope, just stronger species
Plenty of beastmasters KNOW that power is not the end all and be all. at the level 75 Days, did a solo beastmaster take down Hakutaku from having and OP Pet?
No, Absolutely not. We did it by understanding the environment, both the layout and mobs available and working with and around those constraints. that was fantastic fun.
Says the guy who wants a power boost.....This is 2019, not 2005. We also have Trust now
How about getting XP off Djinn? No one ELSE hunted Bombs and Djinn for gaining levels. The risk was too stupid high. But it was an awesome thrill for a Beastmaster, and very profitable if you could do it right.
And yet....players complained about BST as a DD back then.....
You want a Wive who can put up Physical Shield and take 0 damage from the front? Well Guess what, that's old hat. During Abyssea you could do that with atma and ANY PET. but even NOW Herald Henry can do that just fine. I have a capped out 87.5% physical damage reduction set (almost capped magical damage reduction too). I can keep Bubble Curtain, Scissor guard and Metallic body up full time and that crab will take ZERO damage.
I like how you left out boiling blood. & this is 2019, not 2011. Pets were boosted since then, or "Power Boosted" How did that work out? Still complaining? Yeah, me too...
There is no problem for a beastmaster keeping their pet alive thru all manner of abuse. the trouble with tanking on bst is managing the Enmity. I don't need a better pet to tank with. I have many fantastic tanks. Herald Henry, Generous Arthur, Vivacious Vickie, Alluring Honey, Fluffy Bredo, Left-Handed Yoko, SwoopingZhivago, etc. All of them are fantastic tanks IN THE RIGHT SITUATION.
So you are telling me, if we got a Wivre or a Scorp, you would not use them? The current ones are so fantastic, BST is still "Behind" as you stated in your previous post......
Snarl is a Wonderful ability. i would only tweak it very slightly. I want my pet Enmity gear to modify the amount of enmity I send to pet. This actually means I can actively build enmity on master, and snarl MORE enmity to the Pet. This alone would make Beastmaster tanking viable. It would not be EASY, but it would be viable. This is the essence of good game design. solution should have a sense of Elegance.
Good suggestion; not game changing though, nor changes BST in terms of group content. Nor is it a "Power Boost."
Another options is to actually have the self-buffing ready moves generate enmity. most of them are tanking buffs anyway! Zealous Snort, Secretion, Rhino guard, Water Wall, Scissor Guard, Bubble Curtain. These are things that would enable beastmaster to tank and it would be a real challenge.
Great suggestion, but doubt it changes the landscape of BST. Why? If BST lags behind, why would this matter?
Hey, I loved Dragonball Z when I was a 13 yr old too. but there is MUCH more to a good game than getting your POWER LEVEL OVER 9000!!!
Says the guy who wanted a Power-Boost.....
2. You are bashing on beastmaster. Plenty of us other hardcore beastmasters rather like most things about the job right now.
I like LOTS of pets we are using right now. you are advocating for taking them away for your own preferences. If you want to suggest getting more jug pets for beastmaster, I'm all for that. I would love to have a new pet to play with in game. I would love to have a Scorpion or Wivre or Ruszor. I think you need to remember that OverPowered doesn't make it fun for more than 10 min though. If SE implemented some of these pets, they probably would not have all the abilities the same as the mobs. SE did not design the game so that mobs and players are on a balanced playing field. Some mobs can be killed solo, some need a party, some need an alliance. If you put that alliance killer NM in the hands of a beastmaster, pretty soon the game would be everyone running around on bst w/ an OP pet and every fight would be stupid boring.
Your opinion, but didn't you say you wanted a power-boost while bashing "My preferences?" So get rid of mine, for yours....ok.....
I would ALSO love for the unique pets that ARE NOT ilvl 119 to get up to Ilvl 119. (or even higher) I have made this clear in a couple of threads already. Faithful Falcorr, Fatso Fargann, Amigo Sabotender, Presto Julio, Bloodclaw Shasra, Crude Raphie. These actually all have great abilities.
Don't care about unique, only efficacy. The current jugs are not good. Otherwise, you would not say they need a power boost or are behind...
TP Drainkiss is an awesome tool. it has nothing to do with sheer Power. but it can be used to great effect to solo some fights you could not do without. Even though it is only an ilvl 114 pet.
Irrelevant move, because nobody shouts for Drain kiss.....
Faithful Falcorr is awesome for some zerg and best bst dd for Belphegor fight. Fantod > Backheel for 50k ~ 80k Damage.
Was it "Boring?"
PrestoJulio's AoE Sleep and slow debuffs are still fantastic Crowd Control for tanking and solo'ing some high level fights.
So you are fine with BST being a solo job? Not group oriented?
I've burst over 30k Damage on Apex mobs, solo with Charged Whisker on Bloodclaw Shasra. That is plenty viable damage! no other pet has thunder elemental magic Damage. (Though I have bursted 75k with fluffy bredo, and could go higher)
Would go even higher with a stronger pet....
If you haven't seen it you should lookup Beaztmaster's recent youtube video where he and Falkirk Took down Tolba in a NO TRUST duo using Amigo Sabotender. BECAUSE ITS THE BEST DD PET FOR THE FIGHT. ??? Needles damage is rather random, and only modified by Run Wild and Unleash (with job points). But it is also the only fragmentation property on a ready move. Also there is NO Accuracy check and NO defense check for the move.
Like you stated, BST was always a solo king. I soloed many of my +2 Abyssea items, before the 119 stuff. BST was still lagging behind DD, unless you used Falcorr in there.
Beastmaster is traditionally the job that has some of the most creative and obscure applications. It demands the player know their enemy and know themself. Rightfully does Falkirk quote Sun Tzu at the beginning of the Beastmaster Guide.
3. When I say we could use a pet power tweak. I'm talking about a TWEAK, a modest boost. Power Creep is a constant in an MMORPG. Until some of the adjustments THIS year, I really wasn't concerned at all about more power on Beastmaster. However, my MASTER is very well geared now. its hard for my pet to keep up. Also puppetmaster, which job has the closest balance to bst of any other, just took a big jump ahead with new attachments and Xiucoatl. It seems to catch up a bit with other DD's. This is the only reason i think a power boost for bst pets is appropriate now. The other tweaks to beastmaster are about tanking and making the job FUN.
A power boost to Beastmaster could take several different forms. it could be only gear. We could get gear that raises our pets level. Not just level 119 anymore, but higher. It could be just better stat boosts on pet gear.
It COULD be new pets. It could be raising level caps on old pets.
The only message I really hear from you is "I WANT MY POWER LEVEL OVER 9000!!!"
This attitude appears the antithesis of the spirit of the Beastmaster. It is not a powerful job because it has high stats (personal or pet). It is powerful because of the options it has to adapt to different game environments, SPECIFICALLY in regards to what mobs are present.