Idea for odin and alexander

[Cabalabob]

I like odin and alexander they are fun avatars to use but you hardly ever get to use them seeing as they use your 2hr up in one.

My idea is to add in a move for each of them that they will use if you don't have astral flow active. They will work exactly the same as they do if you use them now (summon them use their move takes all your mp linger for a second then leave) except instead of using perfect defense alexander could use gospel of the lost to heal the party and remove erasable debuffs make the amount healed and number of debuffs removed based on ur mp% and odin instead of zantetsuken could use a watered down version of geirrothr (mabe make it an effect similar to 5000 needles but the damage will be based on your mp% up 2 a maximum of 5k at 100% mp and like 100dmg at 1% rather than 10k needles and stun + bind).

I just think it would be nice to see odin and alex out more often than just as a 2hr which in most situations really isnt as useful as the other astral flow pacts. and within abyssea smn really has more mp than it knows what to do with.

[Shadotter]

How about letting you summon them for Divine Judgement or Gungnir?

[Cabalabob]

gungnir isn't an attack it's the spear used in geirrothr. as for divine judgement ther's not much point in having them both do damage attacks i was thinking stick to the trend of odin doing rage style pacts and alexander doing ward style

[Septimus]

I am surprised that people aren't responding to and liking the original post. This is an utterly brilliant idea.

Honestly though, Odin is the only time I ever use Astral Flow, most of the two-hours blood pacts are really weak past level 70 (except for Odin and Alexander) and with the improvements in perp gear I don't get to the point that I would need the perpetuation negation to get my MP back. (And even then I rarely ever use Odin for damage on NMs.) Having more utility out of our two new avatars would be fairly awesome.

[Zindel]

I would like to summon and use them like normal Avatars. As all our summons are not the Avatar at their 'true' power, but just a fragment of their power it is more than feasible in my mind to be able to summon and use them normally.

[Soundwave]

Ya this would be awesome, unless SE wants to keep their "powerful" image as a 2hour only....or something....

I truly wonder if Odin/Alexander...where taken into consideration when making Absseya.

Seeing as how zerg fights don't really happen anymore Alex kinda lost his spot...however its nice to use during certain times...

Odin was nice during HNM's at the start of the fight...

I do believe changes should be made to these two avatars.