RMT everywhere

[Nyarlko]

I use anon to hide the fact that a few of my mules have underleveled subs. Don't take that away from me! T_T
No worries about being inflicted with them in groups, btw. They never leave town/garden. lol

[TullemoreAsuraFFXI]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ht=Scourge+RMT <- One of many posts i've denounced RMT in.

The "Bots" automated farming ToS violations are not necessarily RMT, they're just labeled RMT b/c the logical thought process would have you believe that no one with any respect for their community, dignity or honor would be utilizing illicit behavior that violates terms of service. It is very likely that a large segment of accounts that violate ToS are also involved in the RMT market. Third party programs and add-ons need to be regulated, discovered, investigated; and approved or banned. Accounts using add-ons or third party programs not approved by Square Enix officially must be banned to combat the violations that break ToS. I was made aware recently of a user attempting to control twelve accounts on their own to clear waves 1, 2 and 3 of a Dynamis {D} entry. What do you expect these accounts to be doing at any given moment of a day? There isn't any legitimate way for one human to control twelve accounts through manual interface for content with the requirements of Dynamis {D}. Deductive reasoning will lead you to the fact that terms of service was broken and likely continues to be broken at all times through the use of third party programs and automated scripting commands. This creates an environment of nuclear arms proliferation where cheaters are continuously more blatant, more glutenous, more dishonorable, and more detrimental to the community every day.


I SAY TO SQUARE ENIX : BAN THE CHEATERS !

[Zehira]

Banhammers

If the cheaters (automated farming) aren't RMT, I'd suggest SE to put them in jail just to remind them that cheating isn't okay.

For years, Asurans haven't got any help from GMs at all. Therefore, Asura is currently protected until SE explains otherwise.

Of course, SE knew many loyal subscribers are using their third party programs and nothing SE can do about it. Just need to stop the bad habits first.

[BST]

Just ignore it and carry on, they will never go away unless of course people stop buying currency, which they obviously can't help themselves.
I would much rather see the buyers banned, they are far worse than the sellers, much worse.

[Isola]

If you ban the buyers, you lose the sellers. Friends of buyers quit. Mercs can't merc. and now you've lost half the population. Game can't afford to pay for its own servers anymore.

You get to deal with the minor annoyance or not play. no grey area.

[Alhanelem]

If you ban the buyers, you lose the sellers. Friends of buyers quit. Mercs can't merc. and now you've lost half the population. Game can't afford to pay for its own servers anymore.

You get to deal with the minor annoyance or not play. no grey area.

Yeah, I don't accept your supposition that "half the players" buy or are good friends with people who buy.

Your slippery slope argument doesn't fly with me.

[Haldarn]

Yeah, I don't accept your supposition that "half the players" buy or are good friends with people who buy.

Your slippery slope argument doesn't fly with me.

Even on Shiva. It came to light that most players I know that still play do so by virtue of having bought gil or use bots to automate grind. They're not selfish or nasty or anything - they've offered to help me on many occasions. The justification seems to be that it's harming no-one because the game is in its twilight and most players are complicit anyhow. Even if you don't do the above, have you sold Dynamis-Divergence pieces for hundreds of thousands on the AH? Have you played with any of those players without knowing their provenance, or players they've helped get their gear/job mastery? It's virtually unavoidable.

I've gone back to playing solo, and I don't do much now because of that.

[Alhanelem]

Even on Shiva. It came to light that most players I know that still play do so by virtue of having bought gil or use bots to automate grind. They're not selfish or nasty or anything - they've offered to help me on many occasions. The justification seems to be that it's harming no-one because the game is in its twilight and most players are complicit anyhow. Even if you don't do the above, have you sold Dynamis-Divergence pieces for hundreds of thousands on the AH? Have you played with any of those players without knowing their provenance, or players they've helped get their gear/job mastery? It's virtually unavoidable.

I've gone back to playing solo, and I don't do much now because of that.

Yeah no, I don't believe it. Many of the people in my LS regularly complain whenever RMT yells appear (which isn't that often over here).

"Game in its twilight" is not an excuse to be a cheatin' #&*^$. I will indeed disavow any relationships I have with anyone I discover to be buying. I've done it before and I will do it again. My relic etc was entirely generated with earned gil and items, and the vast majority of it by myself solo. It's easy enough to generate gil in the game today that I can't really even imagine wanting to buy it.

[Sirmarki]

If you ban the buyers, you lose the sellers. Friends of buyers quit. Mercs can't merc. and now you've lost half the population. Game can't afford to pay for its own servers anymore.

You get to deal with the minor annoyance or not play. no grey area.

I cancelled my sub a week and a half ago due to RMT, bots, toxic yells, lack of content yells and mercs/cheats, that and not being able to ignore /blist them (due to the 100 cap).
I'll dabble in and out of the forums and news, to see if any action is taken and if it isn't - I won't return.
Ten or so people I know have quit over the last month due to the above reasons.

[Alhanelem]

I cancelled my sub a week and a half ago due to RMT, bots, toxic yells, lack of content yells and mercs/cheats, that and not being able to ignore /blist them (due to the 100 cap).
I'll dabble in and out of the forums and news, to see if any action is taken and if it isn't - I won't return.
Ten or so people I know have quit over the last month due to the above reasons.

More anecdotal evidence that people hate RMT more than they hate SE for banning cheaters.

Sirmark, you should just transfer to shiva, RMT presence is very light here, you can actually do things in the game. What good is a big population if it has big RMT?