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    Player hordecore's Avatar
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    Evasion cap at 376?

    trying to add more evasion gear but the number is fixed at 376 is it bug?
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    Player Gokku's Avatar
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    are you adding SKILL+ gear or evasion gear , big difference.
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    Evasion Gear or Evasion SKILL gear? Sorry your question is straighforward but lacks details, a NIN caps Evasion at 354 and caps 370 with full merits. I don't know what kind of gear you equip, but unless it explicitly states Evasion SKILL + it won't raise your Skill. You might recount the amount of skill you have invested in your merits/gear, make sure your evasion is capped, and double check your math just to be sure. IF your math and everything checks out submit a bug report on this part of the forums, and give details.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forums/80
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    Player hordecore's Avatar
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    whats the difference between evasion and evasion skill arent they the same
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    Player hordecore's Avatar
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    nvm i was equipping evasion gear not evasion skill gear thought they were the same lol
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    They are in the aspect they help evade, but skill+ is much more potent and does not suffer the diminishing effect as much as addon equipment like Acc+ or Evasion+.
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    You are aware that weapon skill+ (such as sword skill) actually give LESS accuracy then Acc+, right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swords View Post
    They are in the aspect they help evade, but skill+ is much more potent and does not suffer the diminishing effect as much as addon equipment like Acc+ or Evasion+.
    Is there any info at all to support this? So many people keep going on about Evasion skill > Evasion, when there's no indication of it to be found anywhere, only some eyeballing reports from some random people.

    I've not done any testing on it myself, but also from eyeballing I didn't notice any real difference between the two. I once did some testing in +20 Evasion vs. +20 Evasion skill (Optical Hat and Scorpion Harness vs. Boxer's Mantle, Evasion Torque and Evasion Earring), I didn't get to parse it, but just from doing random events and farming in both, I couldn't make out a difference at all (and I was not at cap yet), which leads me to believe they are either the same or very close. Personally I believe they behave like offensive skills to Accuracy (1:1 pre 200, 1:0.9 post 200).

    If there's any testing at all that indicates otherwise, please present it, I've been looking for something about that for quite some time. The only testing I did find actually points towards Evasion:
    http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.h...54796117947076
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    skill isn't more potent. As far as I've been able to discern, they both affect evading in more or less same way (in that they have the same effect on whether a mob cons low/high evasion or not). That siad, this has been a heavily debated topic for a very long time.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 04-17-2011 at 07:39 AM.

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    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    Hmm, well judging by how evasion is a skill but also a stat. I've always been under the impression that boosting the skill, increases the proc rate on your character making an evasive movement, much like when your character parries or guards. While evasion as a stat has been about the mobs accuracy and ability to hit you when the skill doesn't proc. I do see how it can be confusing, as they're named the same thing.

    Let me put this way: Stat evasion is your evasiveness (based on enemies accuracy) while Skill evasion is your ability to dodge (randomly procs like parry and guard).
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