A Ninja without Throwing...

[Karbuncle]

As it stands Throwing is not as efficient and straight DD, but is that really a reason to ask SE to make multiple styles of play viable? Why is it necessary for there to be a single "right/best way to play"? If the purpose of playing was simply to fit the cookiecutter "best" and play as mechanically efficient as possible, there would be little reason in having the choice of gear or job choices or any sort of customization...
Am I wrong to think there is some margin of forgiveness between being less than perfectly efficient, and truly being a terrible player?

Read my post above you! It answers a lot of these question :\

The point isn't that making Throwing Viable is stupid, Its that its unrealistic. Any possible way to make throwing viable at all would either have to completely nerf how we view Dual wield/Haste, Or Buff Throwing so high that it would simply be too powerful to even realistically consider adjusting by SE.

It's not that we're against adding new aspects to the job, We just realize that throwing is something that is simply dead in the water. It cannot be resuscitated by anything short of Gods hand. While I would probably pat SE on the back if they managed to Fix throwing without breaking the game or nerfing NIN, I just can't think of a realistic way.

Someone in another thread mentioned "Throw Attacks", Kind of like "Kick Attacks". Where You'd have ~10% Chance to "toss" a Shuriken at the enemy at the end of your attack stage. He said it wouldn't consume ammo, It would just deal damage based on your Racc/Ratk instead of your Acc/atk. Which I thought was a decent idea, as it only improves Ninjas DPS, not hinder it.

Am I wrong to think there is some margin of forgiveness between being less than perfectly efficient, and truly being a terrible player?

Absolutely Not, I don't wanna go on a huge post please just read what i typed right about you. Mainly the parts about respect being a two way street, Players being able to have fun anyway they want, etc. If players who hold a "Unique" Style dear cannot respect us who hold the "right way" dear ro them, They can not expect us to respect them any more than they respect us.

Respect is earned and not given. If i Join a party and the NIN is just standing in range full R.acc/r.atk armor tossing Shuriken, I won't belittle him, I'd probably run a parse to see how well he's doing, But i'd let him do his thing as long as he doesn't start yammering about how gimp someone else is, or how bad another NIN is for not throwing Shuriken.

Its when the insults come into play that i stand and object.

[Karbuncle]

Wrong guy Wish.

[wish12oz]

lol, I saw the elf face and didn't look at the name. Good catch.

[RaenRyong]

how do I join TEAMcat Wish

this thread has also made for some good reading.

[JiltedValkyrie]

Throwing should be fixed, period.

[Karbuncle]

Throwing should be fixed, period.

Fair Enough. How?

1 Rule. Can't nerf ninja in any way.

[Akujima]

Throwing should be fixed, period.

There's no point in posting about the obvious, because the do-good'ers will just be on you about it, till the day they die.

At the moment, throwing does suck, and should be improved. But all you will get, especially in this thread, is continued assault about why we can't come up with a workable idea. Not to mention the "logic" in how fixing something that is kind of pointless to have in the game anyways, should just be over-looked or destroyed, tossed aside and forgotten about.

Instead of honoring something, giving it credit and respect for its bygone days, just kill it, turn your back the other way and be done with it. It's the exact same mentality that demolishes old heritage sites/cultural buildings, in favor of more "cost efficient facilities". But, I'm not sure they even understand that concept anyways.

[RaenRyong]

so come up with a workable idea and prove us wrong

[Karbuncle]

so come up with a workable idea and prove us wrong

^ I Keep saying this. And I'm ignored.

Give me 1 True way to Fix throwing as a viable form of DD that does not including Nerfing Ninja in any way.

And I'm a man of my word, I will tip my hat to you.

Cause As I've said before. I'm not opposed to the Idea. I just cannot Think of a way to Improve on it.

[Kazen]

Well RaenRyong, to quote what he said:

Instead of honoring something, giving it credit and respect for its bygone days, just kill it, turn your back the other way and be done with it. It's the exact same mentality that demolishes old heritage sites/cultural buildings, in favor of more "cost efficient facilities".

Let's have some fun and rearrange this quote to better suit this thread.

Instead of honoring something, giving it credit and respect for its bygone days, just complain about it, turn your back on anything anyone else says and be done with discussion and instead be a hypocrite. It's the exact same mentality that demolishes old heritage sites/cultural buildings, in favor of more "cost efficient facilities".